Occupy Kiwi Biker Movement

**bogan** · 31st July 2013, 19:57

Originally Posted by mashman

It depends on people making a decision, they don't have to change their mindset.

Unless of course their current mind set is lazy, selfish, greedy.... etc etc, them's going to be some busy wizards bro!

**mashman** · 31st July 2013, 20:05

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Yeah? The facts don't agree. As usual with you. Start with the fact that almost every single quality of life indicator, starting with infant mortality and ending with expected lifespan is massively better than at any previous time in that 2000 years. None of the facts agree with you're spectacularly distorted bullshit.

Drivel. The very first requisite for mutual understanding is coherency. You don't have it. Speak fucking England.

Was I denying any of that? start with your story straight.

Originally Posted by unstuck

I think it is good to be selfish, as in making sure you are the priority in your life. Because if you are not right within yourself, your not going to be any good to anyone else.

And of that selfishness is at the expense of others?

Originally Posted by bogan

Unless of course their current mind set is lazy, selfish, greedy.... etc etc, them's going to be some busy wizards bro!

Could well end up being the case... maybe the next generation will view things slightly differently.

He's cute. What could possibly go wrong in a society where looks are everything

**mashman** · 31st July 2013, 20:10

Right... that's 24 hours up and at least one of us is moving forwards

**ducatilover** · 31st July 2013, 20:11

I think I'm winning in this thread.

Because I haz GN250

**bogan** · 31st July 2013, 20:14

Originally Posted by ducatilover

I think I'm winning in this thread.

Because I haz GN250

Which is actually a rather accurate evaluation of the rest of the material in this thread

**scumdog** · 31st July 2013, 20:16

Originally Posted by bogan

Which is actually a rather accurate evaluation of the rest of the material in this thread

And that's praising it...

**ducatilover** · 31st July 2013, 20:19

Originally Posted by bogan

Which is actually a rather accurate evaluation of the rest of the material in this thread

Originally Posted by scumdog

And that's praising it...

**unstuck** · 31st July 2013, 20:37

Originally Posted by mashman

And of that selfishness is at the expense of others?

What mean you?

**Big Dave** · 31st July 2013, 20:38

Originally Posted by unstuck

What mean you?

He means 'are you normal'.

I think we all know the answer to that.

**unstuck** · 31st July 2013, 20:42

Originally Posted by Big Dave

He means 'are you normal'.

I think we all know the answer to that.

Normal, I would hope not.

**ducatilover** · 31st July 2013, 20:58

Originally Posted by Big Dave

He means 'are you normal'.

I think we all know the answer to that.

Everybody has their own normal.

**Ocean1** · 31st July 2013, 21:19

Originally Posted by mashman

Was I denying any of that? start with your story straight.

Yes, you were. You said "you've failed billions of people who are in poverty". (And I must admit by "you've" I assume you mean the usual generic "someone else" that you usually blame, because even you can't be stupid enough to think I personally have failed anywhere near that many people.)

Whereas the most basic perusal of almost all of the facts available shows that the current system is far superior in minimising the effects of poverty on the poor.

Sorta fucks up your whole rationale for change, dunnit?

If you ever had one to start with...

**mashman** · 31st July 2013, 22:11

Originally Posted by unstuck

What mean you?

What I meant was, if your selfishness has an adverse affect on the lives of others, is it ok to be selfish in that case?

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Yes, you were. You said "you've failed billions of people who are in poverty". (And I must admit by "you've" I assume you mean the usual generic "someone else" that you usually blame, because even you can't be stupid enough to think I personally have failed anywhere near that many people.)

Whereas the most basic perusal of almost all of the facts available shows that the current system is far superior in minimising the effects of poverty on the poor.

Sorta fucks up your whole rationale for change, dunnit?

If you ever had one to start with...

No I wasn't. There are still billions of people who are in poverty irrespective of the inroads that have reportedly been made. It's only taken 2000+ years.

Minimising? No Money = Eradication.

Obviously not.