Occupy Kiwi Biker Movement

[Erelyes]

This Fascism business gets people in such a state.

[bogan]

Yeah I know... opinions is like arseholes blah blah blah, a greater leveler as you pointed out before. You cannot be serious? As the man says, names is for tombstones baby. If I took notice of the names only, I'd be a voter.

That's certainly a positive way to look at it and to a degree I agree... but it's the, it could be a fuckload better with minimal effort, bit that doesn't have me hanging out the flags and celebrating what we have as civilisation. Certainly not with the state of some of the country's on the planet, let alone the reasons given for fucking the planet up. It's the graft of the 99% that actually gets us to where we want to go and to a large extent that's where the ideas come from... however the glory seekers like their glory and boy do they pay themselves for it. The 99% do want change, the 1% are no longer listening, unless there's a profit in it of course. Things could be far far far better than they are.

Sorry I just can't take you seriously when you keep calling a minority the 99%. A name is only a name up till the point where the name conveys a meaning opposite the truth, at which point it's just insulting.

[mashman]

The only problem with fascism is when a majority of an electorate support it. If other forms of political endeavour keep it suppressed, then we have nothing to worry about, surely to goodness?

But do they? Have they been asked? Sorry, yes, forgot we're in the land, actually, on the planet of apathia... where people just want to live out their lives without the complications of having to take a stand.

[awa355]

Keep going you lot, I've got 14 names to pass on already.

[Akzle]

Keep going you lot, I've got 14 names to pass on already.

ha fuken ha. Im public enemy numero uno.
Youre now on the list by association...

Whatever you do, dont anrwer your phone saying 'the silent black helicopters will fly at dawn'...

[mashman]

Sorry I just can't take you seriously when you keep calling a minority the 99%. A name is only a name up till the point where the name conveys a meaning opposite the truth, at which point it's just insulting.

Take poverty for instance. If the majority of us are the happy with the way things are, as you claim, then the majority are happy for poverty to continue, which means that the minority aren't. Yet asking an individual will likely paint a different picture. Take it to pet hate level. As part of that majority that are happy with things the way they are, could there possibly be a pet cause where they will be viewed as the minority? By all means continue to take a single factor and define it as an unequivocal majority, but some of us might be looking at things in slightly more detail than the labels you seem to be unhappy/incapable with letting go of. Praps the Hurricanes will apoligise to you for their name.

[bogan]

Take poverty for instance. If the majority of us are the happy with the way things are, as you claim, then the majority are happy for poverty to continue, which means that the minority aren't. Yet asking an individual will likely paint a different picture. Take it to pet hate level. As part of that majority that are happy with things the way they are, could there possibly be a pet cause where they will be viewed as the minority? By all means continue to take a single factor and define it as an unequivocal majority, but some of us might be looking at things in slightly more detail than the labels you seem to be unhappy/incapable with letting go of. Praps the Hurricanes will apoligise to you for their name.

See, there's more of the insulting arguments. Because we are happy this works in a way as good as possible or close to it, does not mean we think it ideal, or would not like to change things for the better if we could. Those last three words are something the so called 99% have been completely incapable of demonstrating as a realistic possibility.
I have no idea what the %ages actually are, but the fact you don't know either again suggests the 99% claims are a misrepresentation.
Its a lot worse than the hurricanes or other similar name, as those can be filtered out by context. Actual hurricanes are rarely seen playing footy, but when somebody says 99% in this sort of context, it's quite easy to confuse the meaning as a claim of representing the interests of 99% of the population; and I can't see why you would name it thus unless its a deliberate plan is to do that. Hence why I think it is pretentious.

[Hinny]

The only problem with fascism is when a majority of an electorate support it. If other forms of political endeavour keep it suppressed, then we have nothing to worry about, surely to goodness?

How is it a problem?

Could this govt. be called fascist?
Fascism as in the integration of Business and Govt.
It is certainly easy to argue that this govt. is not working for the majority of New Zealanders to make their lives better.

By your assertion therefore it is clear the majority needs to support other parties than the one holding the treasury benches at present.

[mashman]

See, there's more of the insulting arguments. Because we are happy this works in a way as good as possible or close to it, does not mean we think it ideal, or would not like to change things for the better if we could. Those last three words are something the so called 99% have been completely incapable of demonstrating as a realistic possibility.
I have no idea what the %ages actually are, but the fact you don't know either again suggests the 99% claims are a misrepresentation.
Its a lot worse than the hurricanes or other similar name, as those can be filtered out by context. Actual hurricanes are rarely seen playing footy, but when somebody says 99% in this sort of context, it's quite easy to confuse the meaning as a claim of representing the interests of 99% of the population; and I can't see why you would name it thus unless its a deliberate plan is to do that. Hence why I think it is pretentious.

WTF! Who says anything about ideal. Just because we can do by far better doesn't mean that it's going to be ideal, it only means that it's going to be better for more people... and in my eyes that will be the majority. We'll never know until every single person has been offered a set of alternatives to consider and then they can have their say (something that is yet to happen due to the ideology of the 1% of self-made we know better folk) So claiming to be a member of A 99% is just the same as saying that Hurricanes don't play football. You are the one referring to it as a statistic, for me it is a representational feeling towards a number of issues that all have one thing in common... the 1%. You have your context, I have mine and mine has nothing to do with me being in the 1% financially.

So you, or anyone else for that matter, thinking it a pretentious naming convention is entirely of your own doing and highlights a need to put their finger on something that they can't/don't want to grasp because they are either a majority or believe that things are as good as they can be. I'm fully aware that that is my interpretation, but it seems to be an interpretation that is likely closer aligned to the reasoning behind calling themselves the 99%.

[Hinny]

...Because we are happy this works in a way as good as possible or close to it...

Who is this 'we' you refer to?

The collective 'we',

the Royal 'we'

or you and your bloody tapeworm?

[unstuck]

[Big Dave]

[mashman]

[Akzle]

or you and your bloody tapeworm?

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no i think more:

But I cannot grow
Till you eat the last of me
Oh when will I be free
And you a parasite
Just find another host
Just another fool to roast
'Cause you

My tapeworm tells me what to do, you
My tapeworm tells me where to go
Pull the tapeworm out of your ass
(Hey)
Pull the tapeworm out of your ass
(Hey)
Pull the tapeworm out of your ass
(Hey)
Pull the tapeworm out of your ass
(Hey)

I cannot deny
All the evil traits
And the fillin' of the crates
When you, do come out
(You)
(Out)
And you slither up to me
In your pimpin' majesty
But I cannot grow
Till you eat the last of me
Oh when will I be free
And you, a parasite

I'm sittin' in my room
With a needle in my hand
Just waitin' for the tomb
Of some old dyin' man
Sittin' in my room
With a needle in my hand
Just waitin' for the tomb
Of some old dyin' man

Pull the tapeworm out of your ass
(Hey)
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Fuck me

[unstuck]