Occupy Kiwi Biker Movement

[mashman]

Oh the irony.

Did I ever say that I disagreed with your philosophy?

[unstuck]

Did I ever say that I disagreed with your philosophy?

You might of done when I was stoned, and I cant remember it.

[unstuck]

http://www.briantracy.com/blog/finan...oney-problems/

[Robert Taylor]

We're only just finding out the reasons that wars are fought and as more and more details are reported, the more we find out that it's never for the reasons stated when seeking acceptance. What you reckon that all wars have been started for reasons other than stated?

I hear you! Companies like Krupps did very well out of wars

[mashman]

You might of done when I was stoned, and I cant remember it.

ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... s'ok, I wasn't stoned so I'll remember for the both of us.

[mashman]

http://www.briantracy.com/blog/finan...oney-problems/

hardly surprising the financial system keeps failing. Money is bad, demonstrably so in every day life. As there is a finite amount of money, not everyone can have the average salary. Something he completely ignores, which is impressive. I wonder how he'd classify my situation then. I've had enough money for 20 years and only have 1 debt.

I hear you! Companies like Krupps did very well out of wars

Now we've got Halliburton, Blackwater, the Military-Industrial Complex and many more we'll likely never hear of... what a fuckin mess and not something I think my Grandad would have fought for.

[ducatilover]

How does one occupy some internet?

I'd rather occupy Narnia.

[scissorhands]

Fuck having to read through all that arguement again... took me hours!

What I mainly wanted to highlight, was the futility of some political activism. How some political actions serve both sides and end up growing the opposition forces [shot in the foot]....How time could be better spent to achieve a desired result

Bleating on a forum read by a handful of people....
A much more productive action would be a $1 bumper sticker that reads:

'JK genes to be bred with a monkey'

Even just 1x 20min commute to work with said sticker on back window will produce better results than all this 'trying to convert each other argueing on KB'

At least it fans the flames of discontent, and polarisers [duality of opposites]the community and weakens any real revolt

[bogan]

hardly surprising the financial system keeps failing. Money is bad, demonstrably so in every day life. As there is a finite amount of money, not everyone can have the average salary. Something he completely ignores, which is impressive. I wonder how he'd classify my situation then. I've had enough money for 20 years and only have 1 debt.

Nah it's not that bad, to which I think most would agree, I guess you just see what you want to see

[bogan]

'JK genes to be bred with a monkey'

Considering that's just slanderous bollocks with no discernible point, I'd tell any organisation using such tripe to go fuck themselves regardless of the message or what they are selling. Maybe having a good circle jerk putting down the 'opposition' with other people who share you views is fine in private, but I think it unlikely to get shit-all done in public...

[scissorhands]

'I Like'

[Robert Taylor]

Fuck having to read through all that arguement again... took me hours!

What I mainly wanted to highlight, was the futility of some political activism. How some political actions serve both sides and end up growing the opposition forces [shot in the foot]....How time could be better spent to achieve a desired result

Bleating on a forum read by a handful of people....
A much more productive action would be a $1 bumper sticker that reads:

'JK genes to be bred with a monkey'

Even just 1x 20min commute to work with said sticker on back window will produce better results than all this 'trying to convert each other argueing on KB'

At least it fans the flames of discontent, and polarisers [duality of opposites]the community and weakens any real revolt

True enough but then there are some fertile minds putting forward some reasonable arguments by looking at everything on more than face value.

[mashman]

Nah it's not that bad, to which I think most would agree, I guess you just see what you want to see

Poverty exists, but it's not that bad? Educational insituations have limited places, but it's not that bad? There aren't enough well paying job for everyone, but it's not that bad? The top 10% of the world has let's say 50% of the "wealth", but it's not that bad? Money is actually infinite yet we can't implement that which we know will help, but it's not that bad?

It's pretty fuckin bad in a lot of places, so no, money is bad because it is a limiter, not the enabler that gets touted and it damages and hinders the lives of billions on a daily basis. Thems is facts baby, not fictions... and I choose to see those facts because those people deserve the lifestyle that I have (and I'm not talking about stuff), but there isn't enough money from the infinite pot to allow them that "luxury", even though there are enough resources to accomplish it.

I'll go all Ocean and Oscar on you and start putting words into your mouth here... so what you should take from that is equity does not exist, therefore billions of people are marginalised and treated like dogs and not people to support the lifestyle of the 1%. Anything else just make you a (add ad hominem wankshot a la Ocean and Oscar here).

[unstuck]

Money in and of itself has no power, until stupid humans get hold of it. Ban humans.

[mashman]

Quite simply, no man is an island. We are all brought up at the expense of the wider community. From education to healthcare to water "purification" to waste management to, well, the list is endless.

The farmer who produced food relies on a huge number of industry's to provide food, water, machinery, internet, transport, administration etc... before the food gets to us. Before many of those who the farmer relies upon can do their jobs minerals have to be dug out of the ground, processed, fashioned, transported etc... but first they need to be fed. It's a simple cycle that every individual in this country relies upon, even those off grid. Why any person should be entitled to anything above any other is beyond me.

It's simply a moronic way of saying that you are better than someone else and that those who control the market have laid the foundations for you to excuse yourself on the basis that you should be valued more than anyone else, because you made more of a perceived effort. You're fuckwits of the highest order and such a view should be met with the blunt end of a hammer to the forehead on first communicating such fucked up ideology. You do more damage than good to people and the planet. That is an undeniable truth, now go hide-out behind your excuses like the chicken shit mutha fuckas that you are, there's good children.