Occupy Kiwi Biker Movement

**mashman** · 3rd August 2013, 14:31

Originally Posted by unstuck

What you resist, persists. So I personally dont think it wise to protest anything. There has to be another way, so that is where I will focus my energy. Be the change you wish to see in the world, springs to mind, but I have no idea how to implement it in this context. Or am I just being a deluded fuckwit, again.

Resisting? Who is resisting anything? People are merely pointing out what they perceive as injustice, imho, and are being met with silence and contempt. I agree that there has to be another way, but that other way would be to do things correctly in the first place? i.e. put people before the economy. Heh, Ghandi was a smart man, was he protester

? It depends on the change you want, coz you can't make inroads to being the change you wish without knowing what direction you're heading in? If you wish to leave the financial aspect as a part of human life, people will never be the focus of society's goals and people will keep on protesting... but they protest for a reason, contrary to the puerile rhetoric that is spouted by the moronic Rand(ish) ideologues... more commonly, but not limited to, the right whinge.

**unstuck** · 3rd August 2013, 16:20

Was Ghandi a protester or was he non compliant? To understand what I was saying, look at it the way Mother Teresa stated it : I will never attend an anti-war rally; if you have a peace rally, invite me. There are other ways of doing things, if you are against something, you are resisting something. Maybe we should hold a rally for change, rather than protesting against the way things are.

**scumdog** · 3rd August 2013, 16:26

This sorry old thread is still lumbering on?? - Sheesh!

**unstuck** · 3rd August 2013, 16:33

Originally Posted by scumdog

This sorry old thread is still lumbering on?? - Sheesh!

Go and harass some shoplifters or some old ladies who cant drive.

**bogan** · 3rd August 2013, 16:33

Originally Posted by scumdog

This sorry old thread is still lumbering on?? - Sheesh!

I think you'll find this thread to be neither old nor sorry

**Robert Taylor** · 4th August 2013, 16:36

What annoys me most about going to any political meeting where candidates are there to ask questions is that your question so often has to be pre-submitted. You cant have a stand up argument with a politician like the good old days. It just wont do to get them out of their comfort zone.................

**scumdog** · 4th August 2013, 17:12

Originally Posted by bogan

I think you'll find this thread to be neither old nor sorry

Opps

Wrong thread - same garbage!

**unstuck** · 4th August 2013, 17:18

Originally Posted by scumdog

Opps

Wrong thread - same garbage!

Nice drive was it?

**mashman** · 4th August 2013, 18:12

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

What annoys me most about going to any political meeting where candidates are there to ask questions is that your question so often has to be pre-submitted. You cant have a stand up argument with a politician like the good old days. It just wont do to get them out of their comfort zone.................

You don't want them to come across as not knowing what they're talking about do ya? That would make them look unprofessional and could instill a lack of confidence in the representatives of the people. That will simply not do. I fully agree with you though. They should be able to walk the talk at the drop of a hat or at least know who in their party would be the best contact to answer their questions. Memory loss and seeking advice every 5 seconds does not fill me full of confidence.

**scumdog** · 4th August 2013, 19:48

Originally Posted by unstuck

Nice drive was it?

Yah managed to sneak past me? - or did you not go?

**mashman** · 4th August 2013, 20:07

Originally Posted by unstuck

Was Ghandi a protester or was he non compliant? To understand what I was saying, look at it the way Mother Teresa stated it : I will never attend an anti-war rally; if you have a peace rally, invite me. There are other ways of doing things, if you are against something, you are resisting something. Maybe we should hold a rally for change, rather than protesting against the way things are.

Wasn't it a peaceful protest? but I take your point. I'm against what is because there is a better way of doing things, so I'm not resisting what is, I'm augmenting it. The resistance is coming from what is. I think the idea behind Occupy was a rally for change and that rally was resisted with extreme force... to the extent that rules and regulations were brought in to stop it from being allowed to continue. Either way though, a protest/rally is used to highlight awareness of the change that people would like to see, however without that change being represented in a recognised format, i.e. politically, it will come to nought as we have seen over the last however many decades and in however many guises. Shame it takes so much money to get off the ground.

**avgas** · 4th August 2013, 20:50

day 6

Ran out of condoms so only do anal now. The rest of the hippies have started to grow weed in the park. We piss into a filtration system which gives us drinking water - but the water is still yellow. We will have our demands met, I am sure of it.

**scissorhands** · 4th August 2013, 21:22

Originally Posted by avgas

day 6

Ran out of condoms so only do anal now. The rest of the hippies have started to grow weed in the park. We piss into a filtration system which gives us drinking water - but the water is still yellow. We will have our demands met, I am sure of it.

Fucking fascist engineers, rain water is free, but we are denied this basic right to collect rain as drinking water

The grass in the city park is dying under our tents. We will pray for the lawns soul, given to free our brothers and sisters.

Tomorrow will bring more day trippers to our tent city. Hopefully some with money