Have the police stitched up an innocent man again?

**unstuck** · 1st August 2013, 10:04

Originally Posted by Katman

I don't know quite what sort of profit there'd be in raping and murdering someone.

Not what I was referring to at all, but I think you are intelligent enough to work that one out for yourself.

**scumdog** · 1st August 2013, 13:14

On the face of it 'somebody' dropped the ball a tad eh.

But muggins didn't exactly help himself by volunteering he had kept watch while two others did the rape/murder.
So HE could collect a $20,000 reward...

**Katman** · 1st August 2013, 13:40

Originally Posted by scumdog

But muggins didn't exactly help himself by volunteering he had kept watch while two others did the rape/murder.
So HE could collect a $20,000 reward...

Hardly warrants a life sentence.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 1st August 2013, 13:44

Davina Murray you mean?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 1st August 2013, 13:45

Originally Posted by Katman

Hardly warrants a life sentence.

s66 of the Crimes Act 1066 (regarding parties to offences) says otherwise.

And so do I. Fuck him.

**scumdog** · 1st August 2013, 13:45

Originally Posted by scumdog

On the face of it 'somebody' dropped the ball a tad eh.

But muggins didn't exactly help himself by volunteering he had kept watch while two others did the rape/murder.
So HE could collect a $20,000 reward...

And like one or two other cases like this I also wonder; "What were his lawyers doing???"

If it's that easy for TV3 to come up with stuff pointing to his innocence why didn't his lawyers?

**scumdog** · 1st August 2013, 13:47

Originally Posted by Katman

Hardly warrants a life sentence.

Your call.

I didn't mention anything about sentence but I think you need to check some legal facts...

**Scuba_Steve** · 1st August 2013, 13:47

Originally Posted by scumdog

And like one or two other cases like this I also wonder; "What were his lawyers doing???"

If it's that easy for TV3 to come up with stuff pointing to his innocence why didn't his lawyers?

didn't he get talked into waiving his rights to lawyers? or am I thinking of a different one... It's been a few months since I saw this story

**Katman** · 1st August 2013, 14:04

Originally Posted by scumdog

And like one or two other cases like this I also wonder; "What were his lawyers doing???"

If it's that easy for TV3 to come up with stuff pointing to his innocence why didn't his lawyers?

What part of 'police with-holding evidence' are you struggling to understand?

At the time, Pora's lawyers probably had no ability to know that the police were convinced they were dealing with a serial rapist - unless the police actually informed them of the fact.

**Katman** · 1st August 2013, 14:08

Originally Posted by scumdog

Your call.

I didn't mention anything about sentence but I think you need to check some legal facts...

Are you saying that you believe making a false confession and wasting police time warrants a life sentence?

**blue rider** · 1st August 2013, 14:08

Originally Posted by Katman

I don't know quite what sort of profit there'd be in raping and murdering someone.

The fact is that the police pursued a conviction that they must have known was highly questionable. They were obviously too focused on looking good in the public eye by being seen to solve a crime. In the meantime Malcolm Rewa went on to rape another 15 women before being caught.

this..........

**Katman** · 1st August 2013, 14:13

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

s66 of the Crimes Act 1066 (regarding parties to offences) says otherwise.

And so do I. Fuck him.

Do you mean the Crimes Act 1961?

If so, it doesn't apply here if all Teina Pora is guilty of is making a false confession.

He certainly didn't do so to aid or abet the offender. He did so because the police led him to believe that he would get $20,000 dollars if he did so.

**scumdog** · 1st August 2013, 14:16

Originally Posted by Katman

What part of 'police with-holding evidence' are you struggling to understand?

At the time, Pora's lawyers probably had no ability to know that the police were convinced they were dealing with a serial rapist - unless the police actually informed them of the fact.

It wouldn't have needed the police to tell them that they were dealing with a serial rapist, the newspapers would have done that...

So apart from TV3 who is 'going in to bat' for Pora?

Maybe Joe Karam will pick up and run with it - a surer bet than David Bain I'd say...