Time for a second car

[mashman]

Yeah, but I just thought I needed a shit.

heh... you'll know it's over when you feel like you've got the runs

[mashman]

Our VW Polo, $2000 for a new computer chip, always something electrical not working. Nice to drive tho, if it had a 5spd it would've been fun
to belt around the back roads.

Stick with a Jappa.

2k for a computer chip

[avgas]

Audi/VW sump - $500 (cost). I have the worlds most expensive ash tray in my garage thanks to a A4 I used to have. I don't think I would ever buy VW or Audi again. If your going to buy from that company, go the whole hog and buy a Lamborghini or Porsche. At least then when you get parts shipped to NZ won't feel ripped off. If you do get sucked in check out blauparts.com for parts. A gasket set in NZ will cost you a clean $500 otherwise. And you will need new gaskets every 100,000km.

As for a Primera. Only useful bit of advice a used car sales man gave me was. "You know the difference between a skyline and a primera? Not the obvious technical one, the actual difference - porn. You buy a primera if you like missionary with the same woman for the rest of your life.........buy a skyline if you want some pleasant surprises".

He was right. I drove both. Bought the skyline (stock, family edition) and never regretted that decision.
Stay away from Hyundai also - everything seems to be fucked up in them. Sure it works - but its fucked up. You will always find something to complain about in Hyundai.

Toyotas are good. But costly.

Don't buy that Nissan March, when you sit in one you will understand. Feels like your driving a disappointing version of George Jetsons car. Except it doesn't fly, go fast or open the roof. Which just leaves craps seats, bubble design everywhere and no room for anything.

[Madness]

As for a Primera. Only useful bit of advice a used car sales man gave me was. "You know the difference between a skyline and a primera? Not the obvious technical one, the actual difference - porn. You buy a primera if you like missionary with the same woman for the rest of your life.........buy a skyline if you want some pleasant surprises".

So if he's buying the second car for Her Indoors the Primera might be the go then?

[mashman]

As for a Primera. Only useful bit of advice a used car sales man gave me was. "You know the difference between a skyline and a primera? Not the obvious technical one, the actual difference - porn. You buy a primera if you like missionary with the same woman for the rest of your life.........buy a skyline if you want some pleasant surprises".

I'm married and don't have sex... so will likely stick with the bog standard I'mgoing to look like even more of a dick, yes it's possible, wee car with fuel economy and not room to get laid in. Tis gonna be the runaround car. Missus to the station in the mornings, me to the movies up the coast the odd evening, nothing major.

[Moi]

I'm married and don't have sex... so will likely stick with the bog standard I'm going to look like even more of a dick, yes it's possible, wee car with fuel economy and not room to get laid in. Tis gonna be the runaround car. Missus to the station in the mornings, me to the movies up the coast the odd evening, nothing major.

Sounds like an ad for Corolla...

You could have this and look a total dick...

Some of the mid 90s Corolla hatchbacks had a rear seat that folded down like a station wagon so the squab acted as a barrier and the backrest became part of the load carrying area... really useful and much better than the usual just fold down the backrest.

[mashman]

Sounds like an ad for Corolla...

You could have this and look a total dick...

Some of the mid 90s Corolla hatchbacks had a rear seat that folded down like a station wagon so the squab acted as a barrier and the backrest became part of the load carrying area... really useful and much better than the usual just fold down the backrest.

Oh dear. I want.

[blackdog]

Oh dear. I want.

Not at 200,000km you don't.

They have one at Southwards Museum for a reason.

[blackdog]

I failed to mention if looking at Toyotas, DO NOT even consider a Cavalier. They are a rebadged GM, and from memory even a screen for them is about $1800.

Now, I know this ain't that sexy but that's what you've got an Aprilia for so I reckon something like this would be the go.

Chain drive cams, and probably 50mpg. Horses for courses.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-619568016.htm

[mashman]

Not at 200,000km you don't.

They have one at Southwards Museum for a reason.

But I want. Although, how many k's on the one in the museum

[BMWST?]

i reckon nissans are just as good as toyotas but you dont pay the premium.For what you want a primera is good but a sentra (or wingroad?) better.The only thing i would say about the primera is the sr20 is a nice engine but makes its power a little higher up the rev range than a runabout requires(that was the case in my jelly mould bluebird anyway)

[mashman]

I failed to mention if looking at Toyotas, DO NOT even consider a Cavalier. They are a rebadged GM, and from memory even a screen for them is about $1800.

Now, I know this ain't that sexy but that's what you've got an Aprilia for so I reckon something like this would be the go.

Chain drive cams, and probably 50mpg. Horses for courses.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-619568016.htm

I need 4 doors. It would be carnage with the girls jamming each other between the seat and frame for shits n giggles... and yes, they would figure out that it was funny after I do it to K.

[ducatilover]

Contrary to popular belief, Corollas are not all reliable.
If you buy a well cared for, with history, late 90's model preferably with the 4AFE motor, it'll last forever. But the car itself will be shit, dull, not horribly economical and drive about as well as a non lubed penis in your rear end.
But, the simpler Corollas are dependable, mainly the E110 models.
The E120 onwards with the 2ZZ and 3ZZ are dependable, IF, you srvice them on time, every time and with the correct oils, otherwise it'll eat all the oil and shit itself.

I'd go with:

Mazda 626, '98 onwards, preferably a 2.0 manual.
Biggest common problem is a rough idle, which is an intake mani gasket and will take a garage less than 2 hours to do and the gasket itself is a $7 part. Generally solid and dependable, will return avg milage of around 7l/100km, and will manage 6l/100 on the open road.
300,000km is no big deal on one if treated well.
Very overlooked cars, would be my first pick.

P11 Primera, again, preferably in 2.0 manual
Must be well serviced, check under the oil cap, if it looks a little sludgy under there, run the fuck away as SR20s will block the oil feeds in the heads, get noisy and shit themselves.
They commonly have issues with cam chain tensioners, which only causes a cold start up rattle and is nothing really to be concerned about.
Another issue to worry about is if the starter motor fucks out, it's a prick of a job to do.
Don't buy a 4wd one, they're just hungry and dull.
The GX models are also dull and the suspension on them is...not superb, they don't ride that well and handle like dicks in jars, higher spec models are much nicer.
Thrashed ones will lunch the syncro hubs and the hub springs/pawls for the 3rd/4th gears, and may be hard to get in gear and pop out of gear, but only mega thrashed boyracer ones do this.
These will do silly high kms if treated well too

Honda Accords, more or less any manual Accord will see you well.
Most NZ new ones run F22 and F20 motors, both of which are solid. JDM models can be had with H22A motors, which range from 170-220hp, the latter figure being the Si-R models and they're choice cars
Honda Torneo, same story. Buy a manual and you'll love it. By far the best to drive out of the lot I've mentioned.

General overview of the Euro cars of the lower end price ranges:
VW Polo/Golfs/Passat and Audi A3/4, ABS module failures, looking at $1k at a min from most garages
SRS lights, usually worn out wires in two doors under the seats from being folded.
Not exactly anything special to drive to justify themselves either.
Mondeos, can be good buying, but many need a clutch job soon which is expensive as it involves a subframe drop to get the gearbox down. They also drop butterflies out the intake manifold and that's not terribly fun.
Pugs: I'd own a 406 1.9tdi or 2.0Hdi myself, good cars if you take care of em, and the petrol models aren't tooo shit... 306s are rattling flimsy cunts, but fun to drive. They all require frequent cambelts


Don't be put off by having a car with a cambelt, that generally means your car has had more than 1 water pump in its lifetime...

[ducatilover]

Chain drive cams, and probably 50mpg. Horses for courses.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-619568016.htm

Uncomfy, cramped, not as economical on the open road as you'd expect and have a habit of stretching cam chains
They're also noisy and thrashy on the road.

[mashman]

i reckon nissans are just as good as toyotas but you dont pay the premium.For what you want a primera is good but a sentra (or wingroad?) better.The only thing i would say about the primera is the sr20 is a nice engine but makes its power a little higher up the rev range than a runabout requires(that was the case in my jelly mould bluebird anyway)

Power is of no importance. Tis just the runaround. Will check out the sentra. Ta.

Edity: ideally something from this millennium would be good too... which kinda rules out the sentra.