Greymouth Street Races - Labour Weekend 2013

[kiwi cowboy]

[QUOTE=Kickaha;1130609415]Harden up Princess

Who the feck are you calling princessfuck off back to the sidecar thread where you belong.

Looking at accommodation as we speak

[kiwi cowboy]

OK Steve - a question. I'm told there's nothing in the supp regs relating to the recent rule changes - 22.6 and 22.8.

Rumour has it that street meetings are the same as nationals in that 22.8 applies - this would mean "shark fin" extra lock wiring etc as well as a tail light if you wish to race in the rain. It would be as well to clear this up early if only to aid the classic guys....

Thanks.

The rule 22.8 applies to national championship meetings not street meets.
From what I'm told (Kevin goddard) a street meet licence is not the same as a champion licence.

[Drew]

The rule 22.8 applies to national championship meetings not street meets.
From what I'm told (Kevin goddard) a street meet licence is not the same as a champion licence.

Now this is interesting. At odds to what I'm being told.

Can't read the rules from my phone fuck it all.

[Muzzab]

The rule 22.8 applies to national championship meetings not street meets.
From what I'm told (Kevin goddard) a street meet licence is not the same as a champion licence.

We are getting some clarification on rule 22.8.15 at the moment. Hopefully will have an answer in the morning.

It's interesting, my new licence says "Senior Championship" on it, I didn't see any options for street racing specifically when I applied to renew it.

[kiwi cowboy]

Now this is interesting. At odds to what I'm being told.

Can't read the rules from my phone fuck it all.

Yes its confusing cos I emailed him and said I needed to buy one for the street race in graymouth in superlights and he said I didn't need one.

We are getting some clarification on rule 22.8.15 at the moment. Hopefully will have an answer in the morning.

It's interesting, my new licence says "Senior Championship" on it, I didn't see any options for street racing specifically when I applied to renew it.

Kevin said to give him a ring if you want clarification.

[Drew]

Hang on. It's always been the rule to have to do three meeting before being able to do streets and Nats both. That has been amended for the meetings to have been inside a one year period. Why would they drop it for streets?

If you can't do three in a year, Billy can approve you to race if he sees fit to do so.

[kiwi cowboy]

Hang on. It's always been the rule to have to do three meeting before being able to do streets and Nats both. That has been amended for the meetings to have been inside a one year period. Why would they drop it for streets?

If you can't do three in a year, Billy can approve you to race if he sees fit to do so.

Rule 22.8.15
Before competing in a Street Race or National points Road Race meeting in any championship class, a rider must have competed in at least 3 lower level Road Race circuit events with in the 12 months immediately prior, or be observed by a recognised senior competitor or suitably trained MNZ official, clearance for which must be obtained from the Road Race Commissioner, proof of this will be from entries in the logbook or of observed, written clearance from the Road Race Commissioner, only senior Championship licence holders may compete on the streets.
Rule 22.8.16
When the riders have lined up on the grid they are deemed to be under the starters control at the instant the RED FLAG reaches the side of the track.
Any motorcycle that moves in a forward motion whilst under the starters control shall be deemed a jump start.
Rule 22.8.19
Front brake caliper mounting bolts, must be wired or pinned in the tightened position
Rule 22.8.20
A front brake lever protector may be fitted
Rule 22.8.21 -
A chainguard or sharkfin made of a suitable rigid material MUST be fitted in such a way to prevent trapping between the lower chain run and the final drive sprocket at the rear wheel. All edges must be rounded.
Rule 22.10.1

[Skunk]

The rule 22.8 applies to national championship meetings not street meets.
From what I'm told (Kevin goddard) a street meet licence is not the same as a champion licence.

Yeah, a street meet licence is very different to a champion licence. One thing they do have in common is neither exists.
A Full Licence covers Street, Island Championship and Nationals meetings.


If it ain't smokin' - it's broken.

[kiwi cowboy]

Yeah, a street meet licence is very different to a champion licence. One thing they do have in common is neither exists.
A Full Licence covers Street, Island Championship and Nationals meetings.


If it ain't smokin' - it's broken.

Sorry skunk what I meant by licence is the champion and street EVENT licence the organisers apply for is different.

I get where drew is coming from though with all the changes listed under the one rule appendix.

[Billy]

Kevin said to give him a ring if you want clarification.

Why would you contact somebody who has NO jurisdiction over the sport to get a clarification he's not qualified to answer,His only reply SHOULD be,Contact the relevant commissioner,Although in this case,If you bothered to actually read the rules,Instead of just parading them on KB,You'd already know that as Drew has pointed out

[kiwi cowboy]

Why would you contact somebody who has NO jurisdiction over the sport to get a clarification he's not qualified to answer,His only reply SHOULD be,Contact the relevant commissioner,Although in this case,If you bothered to actually read the rules,Instead of just parading them on KB,You'd already know that as Drew has pointed out

For fucks sake what do you mean NO jurisdiction?.
Is keven goddard not the south island road board member as it says on the mnz website?.
As a road race board member shouldn't he know what hes talking about?.
Just to be clear I didn't contact him for clarification I contacted him as race supplies to buy a sharkfin as I was wanting to enter the street race and he SUPPLIED the information I tried to post up here.

I also HAVE actually read and posted the rule up on here and got confused with different advise but go ahead and insult me all ya like.

Might go back to plan A and just not go-problem solved

[Grumph]

Why would you contact somebody who has NO jurisdiction over the sport to get a clarification he's not qualified to answer,His only reply SHOULD be,Contact the relevant commissioner,Although in this case,If you bothered to actually read the rules,Instead of just parading them on KB,You'd already know that as Drew has pointed out

Billy, with all due respect, that ain't very helpful. You've already gone on record here as saying that street race permits are no longer your responsibility so who is the relevant commissioner to ask ?
I was told for example, that permits were going to be scrutinised by a committee of street circuit builders, well there are four in the SI currently but i hear the SI is not represented on that committee....who are they please ?
There's a thread/section on here specifically for the commissioners edicts etc...what about posting a clarification of section 22 as it applies to various levels of roadracing...please.

I've done the correct thing and asked for a clarification from the organising club as i would have expected something in the supp regs...given this amount of duckshoving, i hope they can find someone who will give answers.

[Billy]

Billy, with all due respect, that ain't very helpful. You've already gone on record here as saying that street race permits are no longer your responsibility so who is the relevant commissioner to ask ?
I was told for example, that permits were going to be scrutinised by a committee of street circuit builders, well there are four in the SI currently but i hear the SI is not represented on that committee....who are they please ?
There's a thread/section on here specifically for the commissioners edicts etc...what about posting a clarification of section 22 as it applies to various levels of roadracing...please.

I've done the correct thing and asked for a clarification from the organising club as i would have expected something in the supp regs...given this amount of duckshoving, i hope they can find someone who will give answers.

Not quite correct,

I still sign off on the permit applications,Supp regs and entry forms,The street circuit committee go through the track plan etc to assure it is up to the job,I have received and replied to a request from the organising club for a clarification,Pretty simple really though,The rule is clear enough and the only confusion is the placement in 22-8,Funnily enough that is where it has always been and the only thing of any consequence that has changed is the 3 entries in the rulebook in the previous 12 months,Simply put you need a Senior national licence to compete at a street circuit or the new upgrade for your club licence,Available from the office.

In the first instance all enquiries should be through the office or the relevant commissioner,Not the board,They run the organisation,Not the individual disciplines,You will need to contact the general manager at the office re the street circuit committee as I have no idea who's involved outside of Jim Tuckerman

[wayne]

is it correct club licence $100
championship licence $200
to race on street you need championship licence ?

[Kevin G]

Why would you contact somebody who has NO jurisdiction over the sport to get a clarification he's not qualified to answer,His only reply SHOULD be,Contact the relevant commissioner,Although in this case,If you bothered to actually read the rules,Instead of just parading them on KB,You'd already know that as Drew has pointed out

I love you to Billy....Just trying to help out a friend with the correct information as so many people do not understand the new rules and no clarification has been forthcoming from the Road Race Commission.