This is the worst era of modern music...

[Big Dave]

The day the Autotune was created heralded the birth of the devil.

What do you reckon was the first commercial success of it - Cher - Believe- ?

A marker on the journey.

[Grizzo]

...since Rock and Roll began.

Endless synthesised vocals, DJ mashups and Karaoke with revolving chairs sit at #1.

Will there ever be another Sex Pistols?

Discuss.

I agree whole heartedly. I think those reality/talent (talentless) shows are partly responsible.
And those fuckin internet dubstep dance trends Grrrrrr

[Paul in NZ]

'Later' is a good show if only for its eclectic mix. He drags out a few old farts, mixes in some world music, and features one or two up-and-comers playing live in the studio.

I agree. Its nearly always worth a look.

[mashman]

I gave up hunting for music in the 90's. Game was over back then and even though there's the odd thing that's cropped up over the years, it's usually just a few tracks here and there with fewer artists pumping out inconsistent toons.

[Big Dave]

50's A new kind of crazy.
60's A seismic cultural shift.
70's Disco to a new wave.
80's The Halcyon days.
90's The Hangover.
00's The Stalwarts played on.
10's Autotune.

:-P

[scissorhands]

Good rebellious music is no longer main-streamed, you have to go looking for it.

No one on TV or ANY radio station is going to show you where it is, anymore, or who they are to be found. The odd late show on BFM and GeorgeFM but really the station managers are sucking satans cock, and good DJ's have to be careful

and the masses are supplied chipmunk pop and producer hacks/company men arranged hip hop and electronica

I would argue that there is possibly much more good music now.... the spirit of rebellion may be hampered by a lack of vitality, brought about by environmental stresses and toxins....vaccination injury of rebel breeding stock et al.... [believe it] the spitting tacks angst is even stronger now in some who perceive the corruption....

The spiritual aftershocks of the 70's has also produced a softer more loving rebellion, inline with estrogenisation of young males. Women are still as prominent too, especially as vocalists.

The political ramifications of music has been usurped by money men, nose ringed by the beast of corporation. MTV heralded a corrupting of the spirit, as did Beavis and Butthead and Southpark... the opium of the lesser masses

As violence and testosterone have done a endocrine disorder nose dive, so has much rock and roll

I feel in two minds posting this... as internet ferrets from corporate political entities may use these comments to their own monetary advantage.

Even Rollins is a sell out for a cameo spot on TV or a young boy to fondle...
The mighty dollar will eat its own tail and die

such is Rome

To be honest, I keep finding new stuff that impresses me, mostly from little known artists

[Big Dave]

>>I keep finding new stuff that impresses me, mostly from little known artists<<


Yeah. And some mainstream. And old favourites banging out more of the same.

We're painting with a broader brush of outrage here though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sleigh Bells are fucking cool as shit. And Alexis Klauss is to die for. Lorde is fucking unreal too and will go places. Kiwi too.

[mashman]

Sleigh Bells are fucking cool as shit. And Alexis Klauss is to die for. Lorde is fucking unreal too and will go places. Kiwi too.

Cowbell is better.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cowbell is better.

Bloody Waikato supporter.

[Akzle]

The day the Autotune was created heralded the birth of the devil.

needed to be repeated.


Shapeshifter tickles me.
Goulding had some nice not mainstream stuf.
Lyndsey stirling. Chase and status. November zulu.

Fuck. Theres heaps that isnt shit. Probably small as a percentage, tho.

[scissorhands]

essentially the mainstream has been sterilised
but the fringe's are blossoming

[avgas]

I am yet to have a year where I don't find some good tunes.

I have learnt to look outside english mainstream also. Lots of great spanish bands out there now - who sing in english.

Basically when I look at my music collection and find that I am reminiscing about the "good ol days" - I buck my act up and go looking for new good music. As mentioned earlier I usually find something every year.

I also like how music has come backs. I think that is how it should be.
Rather than the DRONE and HUMM of playing the same shit every day. I swear many years ago I used to like AC/DC........now it is like smelling and old fart. The fart was funny when it was new.

As for "another sex pistols" I am sure there a 1000's of bands out there - that you haven't found yet. In fact some bands which I forgot about have come back and are 10 times better than I remember (Sevendust is a good example).
So sometimes you just have to risk a little of your time and go searching for the good stuff.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So sometimes you just have to risk a little of your time and go searching for the good stuff.

Too right.

[HenryDorsetCase]

...since Rock and Roll began.

Endless synthesised vocals, DJ mashups and Karaoke with revolving chairs sit at #1.

Will there ever be another Sex Pistols?

Discuss.

Yes. But its always been that way. Looking through the lens of the (wait for it) nearly 40 years since the Pistols broke the music scene wide open I think you have to remember that there was a LOT of dross back then as well.

Lots of your Cliff Richards and your Bee Gees and whatever. Its pre-rap and its when R & B was actually OK but white people didnt listen to it much. And big corporations controlled music because they controlled the physical means of how you listened to it: they equated the tool with the content.

Now it isn't hegemonic or monlithic to that extent: any one with some talent, a PC and a bedroom can record a decent sounding album (or track), upload it online and badaboom badabing: you have a new "star". Thats how your favourite and mine, Justin Bieber was discovered. Or, closer to home that Lorde chick.

So, the cost of maknufacture and distribution have dropped to virtually zero, the large corporations are not so large anymore and they struggle with how to actually make money with their business model. So they get Lars Ulrich to be the bad cop... yeah, that worked well.

In answer to your question, I think "No, we will never see another band like the Pistols" because society is different, the industry is different, and people dont listen to music in that same way anymore. I get the sense that because there is no sacrifice involved with people getting music anymore, its just another commodity: there is not the people trawling record shops (hell, there are no record shops), there is no "shall I buy these two albums and eat noodles for a week, or what?" back in the days a record album cost $10.99 I had $30/week discretionary spending.

come to think of it I still spend a third of my income on records... (not really)

The other thing about the Pistols: it wasn't just the music biz: they were perceived by society in general as being "bad" and "trying to overthrow the natural order" and a general (and generally bad) social force. Remember in the UK the Home Secretary being involved, bans on their tours, and in spite of God Save the Queen being the biggest single in the country the "Top Ten" lists being published with a blank in first place?

Either they were serious or it was wanker McLaren's idea of marketing, but the point is they were TAKEN seriously.

and that shit would not happen now because condescending cunts like John Key will do anything except confront a genuine social issue. "Talk about the snapper quota thats what your public wants to hear" cunt.

So, no.

I still listen to Never Mind The Bollocks, probably once a week. It is still fresh, and angry, relevant.


Just as an aside, the only place I can think of where a band may have a chance of upsetting the social order is Pussy Riot, in the former USSR* OK, Russsia: but they havent had the same impact because of total control of the news outlets... so people dont hear about it at all, or hear only the Orthodox** version as approved by hitman Putin and his cronies in the church. They have way more impact outside Russia than init.


*beatles reference

** see what I did there?