This is the worst era of modern music...

[Smifffy]

Rebellion? What you wanna rebel against Mister?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Bloody Waikato supporter.

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or Walken fan.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I gave up hunting for music in the 90's. Game was over back then and even though there's the odd thing that's cropped up over the years, it's usually just a few tracks here and there with fewer artists pumping out inconsistent toons.

I was sort of the same. I discovered country music and alt.country in the 90's.

[HenryDorsetCase]

50's A new kind of crazy.
60's A seismic cultural shift.
70's Disco to a new wave.
80's The Halcyon days.
90's The Hangover.
00's The Stalwarts played on.
10's Autotune.

:-P

You might be interested in this book:

http://www.bookdepository.com/Love-G.../9780374533540


Will Hermes "Love Goes to Buildings on Fire" (yes, named after the Talking Heads song)

basically his thesis is that creativity follows cheap real estate. He talks about New York City in the early 1970's and the various musical subcultures flourishing there at the time because it was cheap to live there: alternative rock (CBGB's crowd: basically all my favourite bands are from that era: Talking Heads, Blondie, The Ramones, Patti Smith, and Velvet Undergruond. Lou reed etc) plus salsa, jazz and the loft jazz scene, and of course the birth of Hip Hop. The early stuff of which is amazingly good. its not always been about hating women and conspicuous consumption.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Here is an alternative list to Dave's one:

1950's: Rock and Roll is stolen by white people from black people and becomes a massive hit. A lot of this music is awful but some of it is marvellous. pop music sucks
1960's: the British invasion. The beatles. The UK makes an export industry out of selling back repackaged black people music to white america. Some of this music is amazing. some is amazingly bad. Hippies suck. Late 60's East Coast (US) underground gives us The Velvet Underground and the template for alternative rock. pop music sucks
1970's: fucking hippies die. East Coast underground scene(s) early 70s' are vibrant and brilliant. punk rules. pop music sucks
1980's. Oooooh, synthesizers. What the fuck do we do now that "punk" (whatever that was) is dead? Lets all use the same KORG synth and those octagonal fake drums and have long floppy fringes. Some good pop songs. Later on, MTV happens and all of a sudden how you look is even more important. Fucking hair metal sucks. pop music still sucks.
1990's. Rock is dead or so its said and now its all a part of historyyyyyyyyy * Seattle, Industrial, goth, and lets turn this shit up to 11. Lets not have a band and bring back the disco (with craploads of MDMA) and call it house music. Lets ironically use 1960's happy face symbols!! pop music suck diddly ucks.
2000's. a lot of people who wanted to be in a punk band decided they couldnt and didnt or wouldnt and start country bands instead. The peak of the alt.country scene. A lot of good metal around. Pop music sucks even harder.
2010's: ???? pop music sucks

[MD]

Being a young'un teen during the 70s I have claimed for the past 3 decades they were the best years for music and I struggled to find anything I liked through the late 80s (early 80s rocked for me, XTC/Altered Images/Jam/The Members/Madness...) or the 90s or the 00s all seemed, well simply horrible.

But just this year I have finally cast off my rose tinted 70s glasses and started to enjoy the lasted iTunes hits. Like an epiphany I now look on my 70s collection with disdain. There's still nothing ever been created worse than rappers though.

I don't know how far or long Lorde's instant stellar career will go, but I find her quite fascinating. How a 16 y.o. can pop out of nowhere to have 3 hits in the NZ charts at once is outstanding. Go girl. Imagine Dragons current hits wouldn't sound out of place in 75 next to my collection of Led Zep, Deep Purple and Alice Cooper albums. Another fav. for me at the moment is the 2013 Tomorrowland warm up mix. Yeah it's all DJs playing with electronics mishmash, but the end result I enjoy and that's what counts.

I frowned upon my daughters growing up to Britney/Beyoncé/Rihanna and other pop gum favourites. The Wiggles I could just handle though, so I'm hoping this current trend of hits on FM radio continues for my sake. Otherwise I forced back to listening to The Sound 70s reruns.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There's still nothing ever been created worse than rappers though.

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Get a bit of this into ya!

[HenryDorsetCase]

There's still nothing ever been created worse than rappers though.

Here's a thing. The rap that you have seen and heard is to good hip hop as to the processed pop pap that started this thread is to the Velvet Underground or the Beatles or the Pistols. You have not bothered to seek out the people with something to say. Like I said, its not all misogyny and conspicuous consumption.

here are five deservedly popular tunes to change your mind:

[youtube]VjLHrhLVwzs[/youtube] Grandmaster Flash: The Message



[youtube]qGaoXAwl9kw[/youtube] Gil Scott-Heron: The Revolution Will Not be Televised (I will accept criticisim that this is poetry, but fuck it, listen, just listen.)



[youtube]RgInoVbM77E[/youtube] NWA Straight Outta Compton. This is punk rock. right here.



[youtube]LK8sxngSWaU[/youtube] Public Enemy: Dont believe the hype (you shouldn't)




[youtube]1M8vei3L0L8[/youtube] NWA: Fuck Tha Police

[Big Dave]

You could justifiably argue that the ABBA era was worse. But at least their vocals weren't digitally augmented and the arrangements were complex compared to the Black Eyed Peas.

[Smifffy]

Could it not be mooted that the Pistols et al have become the mainstream and that Bieber et al are now the rebellion against that?

[Big Dave]

Could it not be mooted that the Pistols et al have become the mainstream and that Bieber et al are now the rebellion against that?

Nah. Lollypop to mmmm bop hasn't changed.

I was only using the Pistols as a metaphor for 'a radical change of stylez' in popular culture.

[mashman]

I was sort of the same. I discovered country music and alt.country in the 90's.

woooooooooe there tonto I never went all plaid shirt like. I just stopped looking for new music and waited for it to arrive.

[MD]

There's still nothing ever been created worse than rappers though.

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Correction. Those bloody obnoxious soft cock boy bands of the 90s onwards made me want to puke.

[MD]

You could justifiably argue that the ABBA era was worse. But at least their vocals weren't digitally augmented and the arrangements were complex compared to the Black Eyed Peas.

Thou shalt not speak ill of ABBA. Those chicks were hot and nothing else mattered to us sweating teens. I even confess to enjoying the odd ABBA song once in a while. Moderation is the key.

Like ABBA, would Black Eyed Peas have ever gotten off the ground without Fergie shaking her delightful tits about?
Music and tits, the two go hand in hand

[HenryDorsetCase]

You could justifiably argue that the ABBA era was worse. But at least their vocals weren't digitally augmented and the arrangements were complex compared to the Black Eyed Peas.

They could sing: all of them but particularly the girls. Those harmonies...... the boys did all the writing and arrangements and played. Don't you knock ABBA: pop songwriting genius.

I don't approve of the Black Eyed Peas so can't compare. When they were a hard core rap outfit before that silly bint with the big tits got involved, allegedly they were better. I havent bothered checking them out.