False flag chemical attacks in Syria. Just shut your eyes and ignore it like sheep

[Hinny]

So to recap:
Thirteen years after what would have been the biggest conspiracy in history, involving the synchronized crashing of airliners into buildings and then the demolition of those buildings and several others with a death toll of over 3,000 people, the best you’ve got is “unexplained maintenance”?

And this so called conspiracy is allegedly carried out by the US Government – a Government that failed to keep secret the fact that it’s Chief Executive got a blow job in the Oval Office, a Government that has been the subject of some major intelligence leaks over the past few years – and yet we have no whistle blowers, no eye witnesses, no CCTV footage (in a City crammed with cameras) and no forensic evidence.

Notwithstanding this complete lack of a smoking gun, what was the motive again? So the US could invade a foreign country?
By that logic, all the previous terrorist attacks on the US must have been an inside job, because any one of them could have given a nation a pretext to go after the Taliban.
So the first WTC bombing, the attack on the US embassy in Africa, and the bombing of the USS Cole must have all been inside jobs?

Give me a fucking break.
And no, I don’t want to watch any one of hundreds of videos on the net, which all basically say the same thing – some people are gullible fools.

And your conspiracy theory is more believable?
You wouldn't accept any other point of view even if it was chiseled into your forehead.
Not that I would cast aspersions as to your mental acuity I just feel many would believe your dogmatic belligerence is beyond the realms of reasonable sanity.
I challenged you on another forum to put up or shut up and you chose to do neither.
The US govt. has been asked to put up by investigating 911 and they refused. Fewer than 3000 people reportedly died in the collapse of the twin towers and another 40,000 have been severely injured from the post collapse demolition and succeeding cleanup.
The initial reports put the death toll at more than 6,000.
These exagerated figures are a bit like John Kerry's figure for the deaths in Syria. 4-5 times the number of deaths reported by France and by the UK.
One small lie among the raft of other lies they have been telling about their involvement.
Their refusal to put up any evidence is telling in this false flag op as well together with their attempts to thwart investigation or diplomatic solution.. Of note there has been satellite surveillance video supplied to the UN showing the origin of the attacks from within rebel held areas.
This administration like the previous one appears beset with an inability to tell the truth.
We know from the whistle blower 4 star General Wesley Clark that the invasion of Syria was on their books years ago as was Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq etc 8 countries in all.
Here they are supporting Al Qaeda again - as in Afghanistan, U.S.A., Chechnya, Iraq and Libya.
I am gobsmacked at the gall they have to present these fabricated stories believing that the public would be gullible enough to believe them.
Obviously they have a believer in you. A believer in the great magnanimous, benevolent hegemony that is the world's moral compass and the only one with the military strength to be able to do what it wants and can't be challenged by anybody because they are the greatest... Trying to paraphrase Obama's diatribe here.
Polls show the majority of New Yorkers (City) do not share your apparent views on the demolition of the WTC buildings.

[Hinny]

Ten more years and fools like you will be in the minority.

I sometimes wonder about the veracity of that point of view.
I realise from the reading of KB forum posts a belief that the majority are fools may be formed and by extrapolation the general population are in the majority fools.
I don't actually believe this to be the actual case however.
I continue to be amased at the depth of knowledge and experience the KB community possesses.
However, since we all ride motorcycles, that the majority of 'sensible' people consider to be a foolish thing to do, perhaps we all fit the criteria of that category.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I sometimes wonder about the veracity of that point of view.
I realise from the reading of KB forum posts a belief that the majority are fools may be formed and by extrapolation the general population are in the majority fools.
I don't actually believe this to be the actual case however.
I continue to be amased at the depth of knowledge and experience the KB community possesses.
However, since we all ride motorcycles, that the majority of 'sensible' people consider to be a foolish thing to do, perhaps we all fit the criteria of that category.

Not inappropriately. It would probably only be true in respect of their opinion on this one event at best, because of the relentless drive of increasing numbers of people calling for further investigation. In respect their general status it was a very incorrect status. The majority will allways be fools to themselves and thier community.

[flyingcrocodile46]

By research, do you mean youtube??

Start where you want, I rely on youtube docos and news channels because they present a more user friendly summary of info. But cast my net much wider for verification of information. Search under news and look at samples from all sources.

[Woodman]

Start where you want, I rely on youtube docos and news channels because they present a more user friendly summary of info. But cast my net much wider for verification of information. Search under news and look at samples from all sources.

Do you also look for the opposing view?

[Katman]

Do you also look for the opposing view?

The opposing view has never been kept secret.

[pzkpfw]

Unbelievable. Govts (in particular the US) have been lying to people for years and the proof is everywhere throughout history. It is an undeniable truth that is now part of historical documented (incl by govt agencies) fact.

Some people suspect that all is not right and actually take the time to educate themselves about the historically proven lies. Then they do the research on and point out the facts about govt lies that are still in progress.

Yet you sheep like morons still rush to the govts defence and attack those people, even to the point of blindly denying the historical facts around false flag attacks that the govts themselves acknowledge. Seriously! That is some fucked up shit people.

Their really isn't any point in debating anything with people who switch their brains off like that. I mean to say, what is the point, when you haven't even got the ability to acknowledge the existence of evidence that is even recorded in the govts own archives. Holy fuck! I am really struggling to understand how such dysfunctional non logic can exist.

Unfuckingbelievable . The only thing I can put it down to is that you must be so terrified of your own insignificance and inability to effect control of serious problems, that your ability to control cognitive thought processes simply freezes and blocks your ability to process serious life issues. So fucking sad.

*There


(That's about all I can be bothered contributing to the 9/11 tin foil hat brigade.)

[mashman]

So despite govts admitting to past indiscretions, "normal" folk will unwaveringly deny that it is possible for govts to do the things that they claim and have admitted to? I can't quite convey just how naive that is. You're fucking with people's lives by accepting (non questioning) the official story, something that has been exacerbated over the years. Whether you like or or not, your inaction or de Nile that a govt would instigate a war is seriously fuckin disappointing (if not ever so slightly unrealistic) and shows a disturbing disregard for (innocent) human life... and all because known and admitted liars have offered you something sweeter to swallow than the truth that thousands (millions) of people have been murdered so that the western world, i.e. you, can have oil at a cheaper price than you normally would have. You sicken me.

[Hinny]

So despite govts admitting to past indiscretions, "normal" folk will unwaveringly deny that it is possible for govts to do the things that they claim and have admitted to? I can't quite convey just how naive that is. You're fucking with people's lives by accepting (non questioning) the official story, something that has been exacerbated over the years. Whether you like or or not, your inaction or de Nile that a govt would instigate a war is seriously fuckin disappointing (if not ever so slightly unrealistic) and shows a disturbing disregard for (innocent) human life... and all because known and admitted liars have offered you something sweeter to swallow than the truth that thousands (millions) of people have been murdered so that the western world, i.e. you, can have oil at a cheaper price than you normally would have. You sicken me.

Actually you are wrong in your last statement.
We don't get oil at a cheaper price from these 'adventures'.
The opposite becomes the norm; oil gets more expensive as control of the supply ends up in fewer and fewer hands.
So the people that support these bloodsucking murderous thugs actually get shafted for that support.
For example:
How did the price of oil fare when the US and UK invaded Iraq?
We certainly didn't get cheaper oil for the millions that Jonkey 'invested' in the overthrow of the Libyan govt.

Our trade suffered considerably as well.
Iraq used to be our biggest sheep meat buyer until those criminals overthrew the govt. of Iraq.
One language school in Ak. lost a $6 million contract with the Libyan govt. when those criminals overthrew the govt. of Libya.
Our tax dollars being used to harm the economic interests of this country.

[SPman]

had a few young Saudi Arabians, the alleged 9/11 hijackers, been capable of outwitting, without support from any government and intelligence service, not only the CIA and FBI, but all sixteen US intelligence services, the intelligence services of Washington’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad, the National Security Council, NORAD, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Traffic Control, and defeat Airport Security four times in one hour on the same morning, the White House, Congress, and the media would have been demanding an investigation of how the National Security State could so totally fail

...but

No one in government was held accountable for the astonishing failure. The national security state was defeated by a few rag tag Muslims with box cutters and a sick old man dying from renal failure while holed up in a cave in Afghanistan, and no heads rolled.

The total absence from the government for demands for an investigation of an event that is the greatest embarrassment to a “superpower” in world history is a complete give-away that 9/11was a false flag event. The government did not want any investigation, because the government’s cover story cannot stand investigation.

The government could rely on the mega-media corporations in whose hands the corrupt Clinton regime concentrated the US media. By supporting rather than investigating the government’s cover story, the media left the majority of Americans, who are sensitive to peer pressure, without any support for their doubts. Effectively, the American Ministry of Propaganda validated the government’s false story.

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[mashman]

Actually you are wrong in your last statement.
We don't get oil at a cheaper price from these 'adventures'.
The opposite becomes the norm; oil gets more expensive as control of the supply ends up in fewer and fewer hands.
So the people that support these bloodsucking murderous thugs actually get shafted for that support.
For example:
How did the price of oil fare when the US and UK invaded Iraq?
We certainly didn't get cheaper oil for the millions that Jonkey 'invested' in the overthrow of the Libyan govt.

Our trade suffered considerably as well.
Iraq used to be our biggest sheep meat buyer until those criminals overthrew the govt. of Iraq.
One language school in Ak. lost a $6 million contract with the Libyan govt. when those criminals overthrew the govt. of Libya.
Our tax dollars being used to harm the economic interests of this country.

I would have thought that they did given that they never paid for the "infrastructure", they just took the oil. That kind of cheaper to keep the price of oil lower than it could be, not cheaper than it is at the pump iykwim.
I get what you're saying and agree, but it's more than just controlling the supply that affects the costs/price innit... the threat of war seems to give the free market economy conniption fits and them bloodsucking murderers bet and prosper (whilst "helping" with the rebuild) from the outcome. That sort of shit should be dragged to the Hague.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I would have thought that they did given that they never paid for the "infrastructure", they just took the oil. That kind of cheaper to keep the price of oil lower than it could be, not cheaper than it is at the pump iykwim.
I get what you're saying and agree, but it's more than just controlling the supply that affects the costs/price innit... the threat of war seems to give the free market economy conniption fits and them bloodsucking murderers bet and prosper (whilst "helping" with the rebuild) from the outcome. That sort of shit should be dragged to the Hague.

I think what a lot of people don't understand is that when these sorts of events drive up the price of oil, the real benefit is in the longer term effect of the price increase for the owners of oil rights in areas which oil extraction costs are close to the selling price of the oil. Marginally profitable extraction processes become much more profitable. It's not just about the oil in the middle east.

It ain't about the cost to us, it is all about the profit for them what owns us.

[mashman]

I think what a lot of people don't understand is that when these sorts of events drive up the price of oil, the real benefit is in the longer term effect of the price increase for the owners of oil rights in areas which oil extraction costs are close to the selling price of the oil. Marginally profitable extraction processes become much more profitable. It's not just about the oil in the middle east.

It ain't about the cost to us, it is all about the profit for them what owns us.

Absolutely... it affects the price of everything really dunnit. Puts up transportation costs, the cost of goods rises blah blah blah... and what's best, they get to claim that it's an inflationary issue.

heh, now you're being silly and bringing yet more truth to the equation. Heads will explode... would you be happy with that on your conscience. I know I would

[flyingcrocodile46]

A pretty hard hitting look at the hypocrisy of the US role and motivations in the Syria conflict

[Woodman]

That chicks quite hot........