Reminds me of the email claiming to be from a Pilot, talking about the chemtrails he's spraying.Originally Posted by Berries
False flag? Heck, anyone can fake an email.
sdkfz
Reminds me of the email claiming to be from a Pilot, talking about the chemtrails he's spraying.
False flag? Heck, anyone can fake an email.
Measure once, cut twice. Practice makes perfect.
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Aye, culling the primary cause would go a loooooooong way. The primary cause is simple. Budget constraint.
Some people don't have time to pick up the skills, well, when I say time, I mean that they're too busy working to keep food on the table to decide to plunge themselves into debt where there is no guarantee that there is a job at the other end of it.
Some can buy chemical weapons and pay off the right people to make a serious fuckin mess on the other side of the planet and some will thieve to get the latest iPad (which would require money otherwise)... only 1 of those activities is legally accepted by the global community. I can afford the latest iPad, but I'd love to have the cash to tip my hat into the world domination ring, looks like that could be more fun that Tetris
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Curmudgeon
If it's a false flag attack, why did the Syrians wait 48 hours (i.e. long enough for most of the evidence to have dissipated) before allowing UN inspectors to go in?
Would it not be in their interest to prove the attack was gas?
Notwithtsanding that, reports coming out of the ME name Assad's brother as being responsible.
This is another, more plausible explanation - Assad has lost control of his military.
Forum whore
Not ignoring it, not sheep, just don't care. The US are killing arabs, how is this news?
Forum whore
Mashman, #23, I totally agree. I spend far too much time dwelling on humanity & history, good & bad, to have rigid opinions or solutions but we are lucky enough to have optimism.
Any hoo. Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Libya, Bharain.. F'kin scary!
Manopausal.
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Most scenarios can be described as plausible. The trick is to figure out what is the most probable. A better question would be.. why did they wait until 2 days after the arrival of the UN chemical weapons investigators (who they invited) before supposedly releasing a chemical gas attack.
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
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It's a nasty vicious shit fight with both sides playing for high stakes and stopping at nothing to slaughter and blame the other"side", whilst "the West" hovers like a vulture, waiting for, or scheming to manufacture an opportunity for an opening to step in and take control - just like Iraq, etc etc. For the US to blame Al Quaida as the mortal enemy, then provide them with arms, because it suits them, shows the level to which they will all stoop. False flag event - quite probable.Most scenarios can be described as plausible. The trick is to figure out what is the most probable. A better question would be.. why did they wait until 2 days after the arrival of the UN chemical weapons investigators (who they invited) before supposedly releasing a chemical gas attack.
Obama is a practising corporate globalist, by design or more likely, by "persuasion"!If the makers of that tripe wanted to find out if Obama is a practising muslim......,
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Curmudgeon
After what happened in Iraq, Afganistan & Libya, I find it very hard to believe that the US, UK or any of the NATO allies would have the stomach for another war.
At the most, we'll see a no fly zone and a few cruise missiles lobbed at infrastructure which may even the odds.
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Yeah - Obama has said he is a bit reluctant, and is dragging the chain a bit (for him)....
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle35964.htm
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Curmudgeon
Russian reports that Syrian Soldiers found a rebel chemical weapon manufacturing plant?
That's jolly convenient, isn't it?
Aren't those rebels clever?
In the meantime, the only country in the region known to have a large chemical weapons stockpile is............Syria.
Forum whore
I understood that nobody really knew what Syria has in the way of chemical weapons. I wouldn't take that bit of info too seriously unless you are very confident in your source of information.
It seems that none are entirely truthful. We only have to look at recent historical claims about WMD's in Iraq to understand how little faith we should place in the most reputable of misinformation sources to understand what value should be placed on such claims.
I don't believe US claims that the rebels don't have the wherewithal to manufacture chemical weapons. Just how hard is it to pack a few chemicals into a mortar or suitcase bomb? The Japanese subway experience with Sarin gas is a pretty clear indicator that you can cook up and deliver chemical weapons without any military or industry... or even chemists.
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
Curmudgeon
Syria has been building chemical weapons for thirty years (with help from companies in Holland, Switzerland, France, Austria and Germany) to counter the Israeli nuke programme.
I have no doubt that basic chemicla weapons are no hard to make. There is also the fact that the rebels captured one of Syria's manufacturing plants early in the war.
So yes, I accept that the rebels could have them, and may have used them.
However the inference here is that neither the rebels or Assad used the weapons, it was the US.
I just don't believe that the US is that keen to get involved in another war.
Hell, even Septics must learn sometimes - they just haven't had one of these things go well for them. You can go all the way back to Vietnam, through to Kosovo, Somalia, Irag and Afganistan.
Forum whore
You can go back hundreds of years before that to see the same formula at work. They will do whatever needs to be done and now they have perfected drone attacks they don't need to worry so much about adverse voter reaction to American deaths and with the NSA spying programs and new detention laws, they can identify and deal with dissenters much easier. I think their patience is more about convincing the international community that they are acting for the best. That is why I believe it is important to get the hypocrisy and lies relating to the topic into the spotlight.
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
Forum whore
Interesting watching the news earlier when it was announced that "senior govt officials" announced that they believe it is 'beyond doubt' that Assad used the chemical weapons. Yet there was no mention of 'who' the "senior govt officials" are or what evidence they were basing their bullshit opinions on.In the very same breath it is announced that Assad delaying the UN chemical investigators access by 48 hours has resulted in degradation and removal of the evidence making it unlikely that the investigation will be able to determine the source of the chemicals.
A short time later in the interview it was stated that it was likely that decisions on action would be delayed until the UN inspectors can conclusively confirm the source of the weapons (what happened to the degradation of the evidence rendering it useless and what happened to the worth of thier evidence that is "beyond doubt"???)
I'm guessing that they are full of shit and are hoping that the inspectors are better paid than they were last time (in May) or that the culprits did a better job of planting evidence for this attack than they did the previous time (in May) when the UN inspectors confirmed that it appeared most likely that the rebels were responsible for the chemical attacks.
FFS how many contradictions do they need to make in order to discredit their bullshit. Lets not forget that these are the same murdering fucking arseholes that kept maintaining that they had indisputable evidence that Saddam had WMD's as an excuse to invade Iraq and kill more Iraqis than Saddam ever did,... (Which was a total fucking fabrication of bullshit lies), and they used depleted uranium in explosives and bullets to irradiate the the countries food and drinking water and cause massive increases in a wide range of cancers and birth deformities (how the fuck is that any less of a sin than using chemical weapons?). That ain't opinion, it is recent history. Murdering fucking scum.
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
Forum whore
Interesting article on "depleted" Uranium and it's use here:-
http://readersupportednews.org/opini...-crimes-are-us
On Syria - http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/26/syria-another-western-war-crime-in-the-making-paul-craig-roberts/
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
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