False flag chemical attacks in Syria. Just shut your eyes and ignore it like sheep

[Voltaire]

I found a book that the old man had called " A Nation of Sheep" thinking it will be about farming, no it was about the US Government and what they got up to in the 40's and 50's.

http://www.roadtopeace.org/?itemid=824

When they say " Govt Officials" then mean they made it up.

So when you going off on your Crusade Croc?

[Big Dave]

Baaaaaaaaaaa.

[PrincessBandit]

Nothing new. Smoke and mirrors, deception and lying are what successive governments in countries around the world have been doing for centuries.

The U.S. is probably in one of the shittiest positions to be in - a superpower that other countries bleat to when things turn to shit in their back yard but then also conveniently blame when things don't get done how they want it to be handled.

[Laava]

I found a book that the old man had called " A Nation of Sheep" thinking it will be about farming, no it was about the US Government and what they got up to in the 40's and 50's.

http://www.roadtopeace.org/?itemid=824

When they say " Govt Officials" then mean they made it up.

So when you going off on your Crusade Croc?

No one expects the Croc Crusades!( best Monty Python voice)

[flyingcrocodile46]

I found a book that the old man had called " A Nation of Sheep" thinking it will be about farming, no it was about the US Government and what they got up to in the 40's and 50's.

http://www.roadtopeace.org/?itemid=824

When they say " Govt Officials" then mean they made it up.

So when you going off on your Crusade Croc?

It's all bullshit John. Just watch as it unfolds.

No travel plans, I'll be happier where I am .. for as long as it doesn't come here.

[puddytat]

Some kind of rumour going around about the Saudis & Russia secret meetings, Syrian Ports,Russian & Middle eastern oil, Chechen rebels & the Olympic Games. Oil up by 15 bucks because of it......

[Oscar]

Some kind of rumour going around about the Saudis & Russia secret meetings, Syrian Ports,Russian & Middle eastern oil, Chechen rebels & the Olympic Games. Oil up by 15 bucks because of it......

I think you'll find oil went up because of the US/UK & French saber rattling.

[mashman]

Perhaps it's as simple as the US needing gold as the Chermans have been screaming for theirs back and the US is having problems returning it.

Since the outbreak of the Syrian civil war, it has been reported that Syria's gold reserves have been cut in half from the pre-civil war amount of around $17 billion, due to the Syrian government resorting to selling off its reserves as a way of coping with international sanctions.[7] The Governor of the Central Bank of Syria Adib Mayalah has sought to deny these reports.[8] This is similar to how the Syrian government is having to use up its foreign reserves to meet the demands of a budget deficit which has greatly increased to around $6.7 Billion USD.[9]


OR

It could simply be that the money men are going after the banks... something they have been doing one country at a time for some considerable time. Quite an interesting read imho. Engineer an excuse to go to war, kill thousands of people, but ya getz what ya went there for in the first place. Scumbags.

[Paul in NZ]

It could simply be that the money men are going after the banks... something they have been doing one country at a time for some considerable time. Quite an interesting read imho. Engineer an excuse to go to war, kill thousands of people, but ya getz what ya went there for in the first place. Scumbags.

Or - running a decent war costs quite a lot....

[mashman]

Or - running a decent war costs quite a lot....

Love the oxymoron re: decent war.

[puddytat]

Aaah, found something about Russia & the Saudis.....
http://www.smh.com.au/business/world...827-2smvt.html

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/world...#ixzz2dDkHlfh3

[HenryDorsetCase]

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I'm with Ripley

Isnt a lot of our oil stored for safekeeping under their silly desert?

[Crasherfromwayback]

The U.S. is probably in one of the shittiest positions to be in - a superpower that other countries bleat to when things turn to shit in their back yard but then also conveniently blame when things don't get done how they want it to be handled.

Couldn't agree more. Rock and a hard place for sure. The UN are that toothless they won't do a fucking thing.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Couldn't agree more. Rock and a hard place for sure. The UN are that toothless they won't do a fucking thing.

BECAUSE two of the permanent members of the UN Security council are diametrically opposed as to how to proceed.

Syria's only ally is Russia. Russia is only interested in Syria because that port is its only base in the area (and I can't remember but it might be their ONLY port on that side of the continent that isnt ice-bound nine months of the year).

Thus, the UN will not act.

Therefore, Uncle Sam likely will. Hopefully not more adventuring in the Middle East because it hasn't really worked out so well over the last um, tow hundred years, for anyone.

And a regime change gets you nothing.... look at Egypt. No winners there either: you either have a military dictatorship, OR a bunch of fuckwad religious zealots.

EVERY DAY I wake up and am grateful I can live in the South Pacific Socialist Paradise, where I can express my atheistic tendencies vehemently, and I can pretty much within reason be a member of a civil society. Sure, its not perfect, and I have pretty definite opinions about a lot of things, but don't misunderstand: I'd rather live here than anywhere else in the world.

[Crasherfromwayback]

BECAUSE two of the permanent members of the UN Security council are diametrically opposed as to how to proceed.

Syria's only ally is Russia. Russia is only interested in Syria because that port is its only base in the area (and I can't remember but it might be their ONLY port on that side of the continent that isnt ice-bound nine months of the year).

Thus, the UN will not act.

Therefore, Uncle Sam likely will. Hopefully not more adventuring in the Middle East because it hasn't really worked out so well over the last um, tow hundred years, for anyone.

And a regime change gets you nothing.... look at Egypt. No winners there either: you either have a military dictatorship, OR a bunch of fuckwad religious zealots.

EVERY DAY I wake up and am grateful I can live in the South Pacific Socialist Paradise, where I can express my atheistic tendencies vehemently, and I can pretty much within reason be a member of a civil society. Sure, its not perfect, and I have pretty definite opinions about a lot of things, but don't misunderstand: I'd rather live here than anywhere else in the world.

Yeah I fully understand all of that...and couldn't agree with you more re living here mate!