False flag chemical attacks in Syria. Just shut your eyes and ignore it like sheep

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, what did the Romans ever do for us...?

Gave us grammar ... Are prolly some of the the ancestors of people who migrated here from the UK and other parts of Europe ... nailed an apocolyptic prophet to a cross ... prolly invented lipstick ... invented concrete ... Emporer/ruler's picture on coins ... the concept of "inocent until proven guilty" ... wedding rings ... gave us socks ... Milestones ... Cesarian births ... smelting crucibles ... satire ... symbols and short forms like "&" "NB" "PS" "etc" ... apartment blocks ... Public Toilets ... Distillation stills (actually the Romans in Alexandria) ... umbrellas (arguable) ... Identified the modern economic concept of inflation ... candles ... scissors ... mass produced glass products made by glass blowing ... different shoes for left and right feet ... Bikinis (Yes, I know but it's from the Villa Romana del Casale - I put the picture on the bottom of this post) ... showers ... sports riots and hooliganism ... brides dressing in white ... water pumps ... and so on ...

Why do you ask ???

[Oscar]

Why do you ask ???

Really?

You not a Python fan?

[oldrider]

Yeah, what did the Romans ever do for us...?

What about their brand (Roman) of sandals?

[carbonhed]

Not a fan of Obama but a fine speech nonetheless.

[mashman]

Not a fan of Obama but a fine speech nonetheless.

He's a beautiful story teller. Moderate effort and risk? I say the same thing about the financial system, and it doesn't require bombs. If they're so good with their tech, why don't they drop a missile message? ya know, a missile sans blowy uppy stuff and with a hand written note from prez o'bama tucked into the nose and parked in Assad's garden or living room.

[Laava]

Gave us grammar ... Are prolly some of the the ancestors of people who migrated here from the UK and other parts of Europe ... nailed an apocolyptic prophet to a cross ... prolly invented lipstick ... invented concrete ... Emporer/ruler's picture on coins ... the concept of "inocent until proven guilty" ... wedding rings ... gave us socks ... Milestones ... Cesarian births ... smelting crucibles ... satire ... symbols and short forms like "&" "NB" "PS" "etc" ... apartment blocks ... Public Toilets ... Distillation stills (actually the Romans in Alexandria) ... umbrellas (arguable) ... Identified the modern economic concept of inflation ... candles ... scissors ... mass produced glass products made by glass blowing ... different shoes for left and right feet ... Bikinis (Yes, I know but it's from the Villa Romana del Casale - I put the picture on the bottom of this post) ... showers ... sports riots and hooliganism ... brides dressing in white ... water pumps ... and so on ...

Why do you ask ???

Yeah, but apart from that...

[carbonhed]

He's a beautiful story teller. Moderate effort and risk? I say the same thing about the financial system, and it doesn't require bombs. If they're so good with their tech, why don't they drop a missile message? ya know, a missile sans blowy uppy stuff and with a hand written note from prez o'bama tucked into the nose and parked in Assad's garden or living room.

Personally, when you're dealing with the Assad's, Gaddafi's, Husseins, Saud's or the Mullah's in Tehran... screw the personal letter... incinerate the fucking lot. Give the poor pricks that have been under the boot of those scumbags half a chance.

[mashman]

Personally, when you're dealing with the Assad's, Gaddafi's, Husseins, Saud's or the Mullah's in Tehran... screw the personal letter... incinerate the fucking lot. Give the poor pricks that have been under the boot of those scumbags half a chance.

Did you ever see the vid FlyingCroc posted up about Gaddafi? Bit of an eye opener. Hell, if the US are going to sell arms to people, what do they think they're going to do with them? Anyhoo, how were the people suffering prior to the hell they now live in? It ain't as though Iraq and Afghanistan are all roses either is it? War, huh, what is it good for, killing people and makin money... say it again.

[SPman]

Yeah, but apart from that...

Well.....the Greeks gave us love - but the Romans gave us love between a man and a woman!........

[Banditbandit]

Really?

You not a Python fan?

Oh sorry - yes I am - but I missed that reference ...

[Banditbandit]

Personally, when you're dealing with the Assad's, Gaddafi's, Husseins, Saud's or the Mullah's in Tehran... screw the personal letter... incinerate the fucking lot. Give the poor pricks that have been under the boot of those scumbags half a chance.

Yeah .. naaaa .. see Egypt got rid of the dictator and held elections .. and what did the poor pricks who were under the boot of that scumbag do? Elect the Moslem Brotherhood ...

I'm sure thats a result the west didn't predict or want ..

And if the Syrian rebels do manage to chuck out Assad what are they going to do??? I'll bet it's not elect another secular Government ...

[carbonhed]

Yeah .. naaaa .. see Egypt got rid of the dictator and held elections .. and what did the poor pricks who were under the boot of that scumbag do? Elect the Moslem Brotherhood ...

I'm sure thats a result the west didn't predict or want ..

And if the Syrian rebels do manage to chuck out Assad what are they going to do??? I'll bet it's not elect another secular Government ...

So you don't want democracy in the Middle East unless the voters elect someone you approve of? How terribly "liberal" of you.

I'd like them all to have democracy and I don't care who they vote for or how messy they make it in the short term.

[Banditbandit]

So you don't want democracy in the Middle East unless the voters elect someone you approve of? How terribly "liberal" of you.

I'm not sure anywhere did I say that I did not support democracy - my point here was that the people you called "poor pricks' voted in one of the groups you labeled "those scumbag" - the judgement was yours not mine ...

I'd like them all to have democracy and I don't care who they vote for or how messy they make it in the short term.

but I am not sure that I do totally support the concept of democracy ... I certainly support the concept of Freedom ...

Does the concept of Freedom include the right to not chose a democracy ???

Because Freedom in the Middle East for many people means the right to have a theocracy ...So ... if these country's choose a theocracy that's alright with you too ? Even if it is not a democracy ?

See I value freedom over any political system .. whereas you appear to value a particular political system ..

[flyingcrocodile46]

I'm not sure anywhere did I say that I did not support democracy - my point here was that the people you called "poor pricks' voted in one of the groups you labeled "those scumbag" - the judgement was yours not mine ...



but I am not sure that I do totally support the concept of democracy ... I certainly support the concept of Freedom ...

Does the concept of Freedom include the right to not chose a democracy ???

Because Freedom in the Middle East for many people means the right to have a theocracy ...So ... if these country's choose a theocracy that's alright with you too ? Even if it is not a democracy ?

See I value freedom over any political system .. whereas you appear to value a particular political system ..

Nicely said, though I am no fan of theocracy, democracy is a fucking joke in most western nations and even more so in puppet countries. Democracy is not achieved at the point of a gun.

[SMOKEU]

Nicely said, though I am no fan of theocracy, democracy is a fucking joke in most western nations and even more so in puppet countries. Democracy is not achieved at the point of a gun.

It's more jewocracy than democracy.