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    Coughing and spluttering at full throttle

    I've noticed recently that when I wind on to full throttle my GSX750F coughs and splutters. Ease off a tad and it's back to normal. Any ideas as to what could cause this? Do my carbs need an overhaul, perhaps? The bike's nearing 90,000km.
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    Start at the start. its a suzuki of the vintage where a number of factors could be playing.

    1. find a meter for measuring volts & put it over the battery & rev it. If it stays well under 15V you're ok.
    2. Turn the switch to Gnohms & check the plug caps from pair to pair should be 20k or under (each cap would be 5-8k)
    3. replace the plugs
    4. Clean the carbs out. there will be debris that a filter won't stop as the fuel tanks rust slit. blow through the small pilot jets
    5. Foam airfilter should be totally cleaned & lightly oiled with real airfilter oil

    if done all above, then come back & tell us about the nasty 4-1 & pod airfilters you are running.


    edit just noticed age of your bike is younger than I first thought. Oh well same may apply to lesser extent.


    Hmm, while you are checking the plugs lets know if the plugs are black in one or more of the cylinders, it'll have those Mikuni flatslides that wear the emulsion tubes
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    Does it do it in all gears?

    If it does, ignore me.

    If it's only in top, mine was doing this too, turned out to be a blocked fuel tank vent.

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    Tanks rusting can cause people to add inline filters (which often kink the fuel line enough to stave flow) or to run some tank sealer (which blocks the vents).
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    I've noticed recently that when I wind on to full throttle my GSX750F coughs and splutters. Ease off a tad and it's back to normal. Any ideas as to what could cause this? Do my carbs need an overhaul, perhaps? The bike's nearing 90,000km.
    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Start at the start. its a suzuki of the vintage where a number of factors could be playing.

    1. find a meter for measuring volts & put it over the battery & rev it. If it stays well under 15V you're ok.
    2. Turn the switch to Gnohms & check the plug caps from pair to pair should be 20k or under (each cap would be 5-8k)
    3. replace the plugs
    4. Clean the carbs out. there will be debris that a filter won't stop as the fuel tanks rust slit. blow through the small pilot jets
    5. Foam airfilter should be totally cleaned & lightly oiled with real airfilter oil

    if done all above, then come back & tell us about the nasty 4-1 & pod airfilters you are running.


    edit just noticed age of your bike is younger than I first thought. Oh well same may apply to lesser extent.


    Hmm, while you are checking the plugs lets know if the plugs are black in one or more of the cylinders, it'll have those Mikuni flatslides that wear the emulsion tubes

    Steve, I have a multi meter if you want to take a blat up here we can check the voltages. Can probably replace the plugs too if you do the spanner work, I only have one operational hand.

    I will call this a battery issue as a starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Start at the start. its a suzuki of the vintage where a number of factors could be playing.

    1. find a meter for measuring volts & put it over the battery & rev it. If it stays well under 15V you're ok.
    2. Turn the switch to Gnohms & check the plug caps from pair to pair should be 20k or under (each cap would be 5-8k)
    3. replace the plugs
    4. Clean the carbs out. there will be debris that a filter won't stop as the fuel tanks rust slit. blow through the small pilot jets
    5. Foam airfilter should be totally cleaned & lightly oiled with real airfilter oil

    if done all above, then come back & tell us about the nasty 4-1 & pod airfilters you are running.


    edit just noticed age of your bike is younger than I first thought. Oh well same may apply to lesser extent.


    Hmm, while you are checking the plugs lets know if the plugs are black in one or more of the cylinders, it'll have those Mikuni flatslides that wear the emulsion tubes
    Thanks for the advice. I can check all but no. 5. If it becomes necessary I'll let my mechanic handle that (it's my primary transport and I can't afford to have it off the road whille I figure out how to put the carbs back together (or pull them apart for that matter).

    Oh, frogot to add that I'm running iridium plugs. Been in for about 40,000km
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbfb View Post
    Does it do it in all gears?

    If it does, ignore me.

    If it's only in top, mine was doing this too, turned out to be a blocked fuel tank vent.
    More than just top gear. When I noticed it at the beginning of the week I dropped down a couple and tried again with the same result. Might check the vent anyway though (once I look up where that is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Steve, I have a multi meter if you want to take a blat up here we can check the voltages. Can probably replace the plugs too if you do the spanner work, I only have one operational hand.

    I will call this a battery issue as a starting point.
    I have a meter I can use. Thanks anyway.
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    Service time mate. Wouldnt hurt to chuck new leads and plugs at it anyway with those ks on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Service time mate. Wouldnt hurt to chuck new leads and plugs at it anyway with those ks on it.
    Just had a service. At that stage I'd just noticed a slight hiccup when winding open the throttle fast. This was cured with a slight richening of the mixture.
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    If its carb related, full throttle problems would relate to the main jet. Overhall them anyway. New jets are about $10 a peice from cycletreads.

    Also with that amount of KM's the emulsion tubes are prob very well worn which would have been causing your mid range issue. Making the mixture more rich is a temp fix. They should really be replaced with OEM or after market nickle tubes from FactoryPro.

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    I've never known jap carbs to wear mains. Emulsion tube yes.

    40k is old for plugs. Obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    40k is old for plugs. Obviously
    They're Iridium; suppposed to last upto 80,000km.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    I've never known jap carbs to wear mains. Emulsion tube yes.

    40k is old for plugs. Obviously
    And plug leads,TL ones caused problems years ago.
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