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    Semi-pivotless frame

    I'm looking a getting a bike with a dead motor to convert to electric. Found a relatively cheap VTR1000F on trademe which looks suitable. However wikipedia says it has a "Semi-pivotless frame".
    Semi-pivotless frame meant that engine was a stressed member with the swingarm bolted directly to the engine.
    If I'm wanting to remove the engine entirely, I'm guessing this would be a bad thing? Ie should I be looking for a bike without a Semi-pivotless frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    I'm looking a getting a bike with a dead motor to convert to electric. Found a relatively cheap VTR1000F on trademe which looks suitable. However wikipedia says it has a "Semi-pivotless frame".


    If I'm wanting to remove the engine entirely, I'm guessing this would be a bad thing? Ie should I be looking for a bike without a Semi-pivotless frame?
    Unless you wanna faff about altering the frame, before you even try and put a motor in it, yes.

    Why would a V-twin be a good start point anyway? Narrow frame means less space to put...everything.

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    Great, thanks for clarifying that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Why would a V-twin be a good start point anyway? Narrow frame means less space to put...everything.
    Good point. Haven't actually looked closely at a V-twin for a while. Guess its quite a difference between that and IL4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    Great, thanks for clarifying that.

    Good point. Haven't actually looked closely at a V-twin for a while. Guess its quite a difference between that and IL4?
    You loose at least 100mm of width, without any substantial weight gains or rigidity.

    Just doesn't seem an ideal starting point to me.

    There was recently a GSXR750 SRAD rolling frame on Trademe. A much better starting point I should think, with quite a wide frame spar measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    There was recently a GSXR750 SRAD rolling frame on Trademe. A much better starting point I should think, with quite a wide frame spar measurement.
    This one?: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-628267055.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    I thought there was just a rolling frame, no motor.

    Could be wrong, it happens a lot.

    You buy that one though, and I'll give you at least a couple hundy for the motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    You buy that one though, and I'll give you at least a couple hundy for the motor.
    Works for me. I'll give them a call tomorrow.

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    Unfortunately its gone. Let me know if you stumble across anything else suitable. My trademe-fu seems lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    Unfortunately its gone. Let me know if you stumble across anything else suitable. My trademe-fu seems lacking.
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-636647890.htm
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    Thanks Mossy, a potential but ideally I'd like something in a slightly better state of repair...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    Thanks Mossy, a potential but ideally I'd like something in a slightly better state of repair...
    Do consider it as the 17inch wheels alone on that frame make it very cheap chassis to start with. You wont be wanting a lot from a rolling bike that that one doesn't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Do consider it as the 17inch wheels alone on that frame make it very cheap chassis to start with.
    Doesn't that have a 16" front?
    You wont be wanting a lot from a rolling bike that that one doesn't have.
    As in I don't have a bike yet so shouldn't be so picky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    Doesn't that have a 16" front?

    As in I don't have a bike yet so shouldn't be so picky?
    17s front and rear on the later ones like that.

    I think he means, since nearly everything other than the rolling frame will be getting the arse, it suits your needs nicely.

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    I'm almost certain that front fairing, was off a K1/2 GSXR1000 or K2/3 600/750

    Doesn't look like any CBR I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post

    As in I don't have a bike yet so shouldn't be so picky?
    No I think its a perfect chassis. Hang the battery cradle and motor and build from it.

    If it doesn't get purchased ill buy it and make another trailer from it.

    1998 was the first year cbr had 17inch front wheel.
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