America's Cup

[oldrider]

IIRC the defender chooses where they want to start in the first race & it goes turn about after that.

So how do Oracle get two (favourable) port entries on one day? (this will definitely go down to the wire, then ETNZ will pull one out of the hat!)

[george formby]

Ha, i may not have recalled correctly then, not sure where that little nugget came from.

[The Reibz]

Chokers. They are going to lose big time. The hate is flowing on all social media channels. Sore loser kiwis, typical as.
My moneys on oracle and a nation of over confident cry babys

[wysper]

I don't think they are choking.
I think US has been able to pour more money into improvements on the boat.
The crew work has really come on in leaps and bounds.
Their technical sailing is much better than at the start.

ETNZ hasn't improved at the same rate so have been caught and now passed by OTUSA.

[oldrider]

Two (favourable?) port entries for ETNZ tomorrow similar conditions as today so if they don't clean it up tomorrow it looks like curtains (fail) for their challenge!

[The Reibz]

I see how this is going to end. They will choke right up until the last five minutes, Barker will get subed off for Steven Donald and NZ will clinch the victory!

[Maha]

I don't think they are choking.
I think US has been able to pour more money into improvements on the boat.
The crew work has really come on in leaps and bounds.
Their technical sailing is much better than at the start.

ETNZ hasn't improved at the same rate so have been caught and now passed by OTUSA.

An accurate assessment, the concerning stat for ETNZ will be that OTUSA have won 7 races to their 8, granted the scoreboard looks different and ETNZ should still win this, but another two to OTUSA tomorrow and things will look grim.

[ckai]

I don't think they are choking.
I think US has been able to pour more money into improvements on the boat.
The crew work has really come on in leaps and bounds.
Their technical sailing is much better than at the start.

ETNZ hasn't improved at the same rate so have been caught and now passed by OTUSA.

That's exactly way TNZ have said right from the start, and especially when they only had one race left, that's it's never over and to never count the chickens bla bla. They knew Oracle had the most to improve and they also had the resources to drastically change the boat if needed. TNZ knew exactly where they stood and was essentially just waiting for the beast to awake.

I really do hope TNZ don't put their heads in the hole and actually get that win. I love Oracles fighting spirit, and in a way both teams deserve to win, but I think, not just because I'm kiwi, that TNZ deserve the win slightly more. They were heaps more prepared, they had heaps less resources and they're essentially the ones that have pushed the boundaries.

Two (favourable?) port entries for ETNZ tomorrow similar conditions as today so if they don't clean it up tomorrow it looks like curtains (fail) for their challenge!

Rules were decided back last year that the boat who picks the morning start doesn't pick the morning start the next day. The afternoon start pick goes to whoever didn't pick in the morning.

The crews decided on these rules and it was made when the limits were 5-33 knots so no one thought racing would ever be put off.

When the racing gets put off, those races have to replayed hence how they get double ups on start sides.

The rules were put in place to eliminate any advantage of the morning crew also having one side to start or vice versa, i.e. port might have an advantage in the lighter morning air. It's a good idea in theory. But since Oracle cried about wind limits back in the start (yes it was them that changed things), it's screwed everything up.

[awa355]

Questions, the two points that Oracle were docked for an illegal boat earlier, was that a different boat than this one they are racing with now?

Was it a different series to this finals cup challenge? Did that illegal boat make any difference to having these two boats in this final?

If not, then I reckon they have grounds to appeal.

Seems to me to be a bit like having a motogp team penalised two wins for a illegal moto2 bike from the same team.

[Maha]

Questions, the two points that Oracle were docked for an illegal boat earlier, was that a different boat than this one they are racing with now?

Was it a different series to this finals cup challenge? Did that illegal boat make any difference to having these two boats in this final?

If not, then I reckon they have grounds to appeal.

Seems to me to be a bit like having a motogp team penalised two wins for a illegal moto2 bike from the same team.

Cannot appeal that decision, it has been talked about on the radio this morning and the judging panel (who ever the hell they were) their say is final, no amount of money will see an appeal take place, word was ''it's is just scare tactics''.

[awa355]

Cannot appeal that decision, it has been talked about on the radio this morning and the judging panel (who ever the hell they were) their say is final, no amount of money will see an appeal take place, word was ''it's is just scare tactics''.

Just as well, poor buggar couldn't afford to lodge a challenge anyway. I see he has taken a cut in his salary of $78 million.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology...ectid=11128567

Maybe we could pass the hat around to help him out?

[Mental Trousers]

Maybe we could pass the hat around to help him out?

Yeah nah, already helping that prick out to the tune of $10,000 (approx) per RU

[oldrider]

Tomorrow at the end of racing it will probably be, ETNZ 8 ... OUSA 7 (9) and game over, (one way or t'other) on Wednesday!

Everybody will have saved face by then! (makes you wonder whether it's all been a big conspiracy to make it an exciting successful event! $$$$$$)

[The Reibz]

Straight up match fixing. Barker getting paid 20mil to take the hit hahaha

[Maha]

Out of the last 9 races, OTUSA have won 6-3. Tomorrow ETNZ have the favoured port side start, what will be the reason/excuse to not race?

News just in, they are re writing the lyrics to Sailing away, new song title is Fading away.