America's Cup

**ellipsis** · 13th September 2013, 13:08

...would them scuttling our boat and winning the rest not make it a draw on the board...it could come down to carbon fibre cutlasses on the wharf if that were so...

**oldrider** · 13th September 2013, 13:21

Originally Posted by yod

if ours is a tractor, theirs is a brick!!

Actually, I couldn't help noticing how sleek and sharp looking the Oracle boat is when she is really going well but the crew work doesn't seem to match!

**MisterD** · 13th September 2013, 13:23

Originally Posted by oldrider

Actually, I couldn't help noticing how sleek and sharp looking the Oracle boat is when she is really going well but the crew work doesn't seem to match!

Very American isn't it? Looks great going in a straight line, but when you have to go around a corner...

**Mental Trousers** · 13th September 2013, 13:50

It's more than the crew work. The Oracle boat has narrower hulls forward of the mast so it digs in when they drop off the foils. They've also got a jib that overlaps the wing so when they tack the jib flaps around uselessly for a short while and takes longer to get sorted. There'll be other differences as well.

**jasonu** · 13th September 2013, 15:50

Originally Posted by Mo NZ

One thing that really worries me....
They have 2 boats and we have one.

Imagine our difficulty if there is a collision and the boats are significantly damaged.

Answer is they roll out their number 2 boat and say ok lets go racing.
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"We will do what ever it takes"

I'm sure its a consideration.

Dunno what commentary you lot get in UnZud but in todays thrashing it was said that TNZ don't take any chances particularly in the starting box for that very reason. That and even if they fudge the start they will most likely piss past Spitthill on the track anyway.

**jasonu** · 13th September 2013, 15:51

Originally Posted by oldrider

Actually, I couldn't help noticing how sleek and sharp looking the Oracle boat is when she is really going well but the crew work doesn't seem to match!

After todays spectacle it looks to be the other way around.

**Banditbandit** · 13th September 2013, 16:48

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

It's more than the crew work. The Oracle boat has narrower hulls forward of the mast so it digs in when they drop off the foils. They've also got a jib that overlaps the wing so when they tack the jib flaps around uselessly for a short while and takes longer to get sorted. There'll be other differences as well.

Fuck me .... and here I was thinking it was just a faster boat ...

**oldrider** · 13th September 2013, 17:04

Bloody hell, just saw a media clip on TV claiming the cup is as good as won .... why don't they shut their fucking mouths until the job is done FFS!

**Road kill** · 13th September 2013, 17:12

Originally Posted by oldrider

Bloody hell, just saw a media clip on TV claiming the cup is as good as won .... why don't they shut their fucking mouths until the job is done FFS!

Gott'a love the NZ press huh.

Egg on somebodies face if the bloody thing sinks for,,,,, some reason

**Mental Trousers** · 13th September 2013, 22:52

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

It's more than the crew work. The Oracle boat has narrower hulls forward of the mast so it digs in when they drop off the foils. They've also got a jib that overlaps the wing so when they tack the jib flaps around uselessly for a short while and takes longer to get sorted. There'll be other differences as well.

Fuck me .... and here I was thinking it was just a faster boat ...

Upwind it's only a slight advantage in actual speed, but ETNZ lose less when tacking etc due to team work and boat design.

**ckai** · 13th September 2013, 23:12

Originally Posted by MisterD

Very American isn't it? Looks great going in a straight line, but when you have to go around a corner...

Haha shit, I never thought of that but that's exactly what's happening. Bloody cold that is.

I think the crew are playing a big part in that as well. When they work together they're decent. Problem is, that's just not happening. Probably don't like following an Ozzie.

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**mossy1200** · 13th September 2013, 23:16

It puzzles me how NZ can be a world leader but we arnt a rich country.

**pete376403** · 14th September 2013, 01:08

Originally Posted by mossy1200

It puzzles me how NZ can be a world leader but we arnt a rich country.

Seems that whenever we come up with something unique, the rush is on to see who we can sell the technology to, when we should be keeping the technology and selling the end product.

**Road kill** · 14th September 2013, 08:00

Originally Posted by pete376403

Seems that whenever we come up with something unique, the rush is on to see who we can sell the technology to, when we should be keeping the technology and selling the end product.

In today's world if you don't sell it,it will simply be stolen and claimed as theirs by the thieves.

So you may as well get something because the alternative is that you get nothing.

The yanks stolen the tech for the jet engine from the Brits after they couldn't work it out for themselves and those thieving bloody aussies stole the Pavola from the Edmonds cook book.

Cunts.