America's Cup

[Ocean1]

Seems that whenever we come up with something unique, the rush is on to see who we can sell the technology to, when we should be keeping the technology and selling the end product.

At the risk of generalising a complex topic it's because we're innovative, have had to be because we either couldn't get or afford equipment available to businesses in other countries, so we grew up as a country having to make do.

But we aren't necessarily good at manufacturing, economies of scale and comfortable employment policy make it much less likely to work well here.

A lot of multinationals have bought up NZ companies, eventually moved their manufacturing off-shore and tried to keep a development team here. It's a fairly common series of events, but without direct exposure to the market it never seems to work, and sooner or later the design element is closed down too.

[Maha]

All Oracle need to do is ram the NZ boat in the second race tomorrow, use the old 'smidsy' rule...Team NZ do not have a second boat so they will have to borrow one, I know, that Artemis one could be leased perhaps?

[caseye]

If anything of the sort did happen,then WW3 would break out in San Francisco.
Seriously if for any reason we needed another boat, then PRADA is the sister ship to ours and I'm bloody certain that we'd be offered her in a heartbeat.
Don't go giving these yanks any more ideas you lot, they're dumb enough to think doing something like this would work for them without putting the idea in their heads.

[Hobbyhorse]

Caseye I am not leaving home for the blue ribbon run until after the second race. If you want to drop by to watch it that is just fine and we can leave here at about 09.40 and still be in time.

[caseye]

Caseye I am not leaving home for the blue ribbon run until after the second race. If you want to drop by to watch it that is just fine and we can leave here at about 09.40 and still be in time.

Appreciate the offer mate, but got a mob of LOR coming up to ride off from my place to Pakuranga, so sadly, not this time.Be seeing you there after the races I'm sure.

[Mental Trousers]

Looks like Oracle have probably changed their foil package. Most likely bigger foils so it's easier to keep up on the foils.

[Mo NZ]

Yep, they have made changes.
Also they have sharpened up the crew work.
They are faster upwind than last time.
We really have a match race now ladies.

I think Dean is going to top up the hydro fluid and check the roll bar mounts,
after changing his undies. What a moment.

[skippa1]

Yep, they have made changes.
Also they have sharpened up the crew work.
They are faster upwind than last time.
We really have a match race now ladies.

I think Dean is going to top up the hydro fluid and check the roll bar mounts,
after changing his undies. What a moment.

Holy shit what a moment all right! That was so close.....lucky they didn't start bailing off

[paturoa]

We will hear soon if it was a gear or people fail for not setting the main for the tack. I've got a small cat and it is no fun in that situration as the rudder has less effect as it is more trying to lift the hull out of the water and bury the rear which and make thing worse if the gib is already set. Wierdly when it happens it always seems to happen very quickly, but it is a slow process.

[paturoa]

ok kow does that work ..if boat going in same direction how does wind come from front of boat ...

I learnt in sailing dingies and it was a fun thing to learn in cats.

For this discussion 0 degrees is the wind coming from the front of the boat, 90 degrees directly from the side and 180 degrees from the rear.

- Imagine a cat sitting still in the water at 90 degrees to the wind.

- Now as the cat starts to sail forward, still at 90 degrees to the true wind, the apparent wind direction starts to swing towards the front of the boat. Now if the cat is doing 20 knots water speed in this 20 knot wind the apparent wind direction will swing to 45 degrees.

- These cats can easily do 40 knots water speed in 20 knots of wind in a broad reach (~90 degrees to the wind). At that speed the apparent direction would be 26 degrees (atan .5). The wind speed that the boat experiences is root 5 or 2.23 * 20 = 44.7 knots (you've heard of boats making their own wind).

- So at this heading 90, the apparent wind is 26 degrees at 44 knots. See that scool c maths was useful after all.

- Now start turning this imaginary boat to head "down wind" a little bit. The wind is still coming from the front of the boat and the speed and apparent wind direction is still from the front and way faster than 20 knott true wind.

- With these boats with their wing sails they can turn a long way down wind and keep the boat speed up. This results in their VMG towards the mark being higher than 20 knots (= true wind speed)

- So the boat is heading down wind, and the apparent wind is still from the front of the boat. Hence the boat actually tacks rather than gybes down wind.

[oldrider]

All the breeze flappin yappin of the Kiwi loud mouths claiming premature victory must have got under the sail of ETNZ this morning!

Looks like we have a boat race on our hands now!

[Drew]

We have lost from a similar position before haven't we?

[jonbuoy]

A Race?? I don´t see any hydrocarbons being burnt

[Mental Trousers]

They were so lucky they got some hydraulic pressure and the wing started to reconfigure. If it hadn't the wing would've kept sucking the boat over onto it's side.

[BMWST?]

looks like they have got the mojo back straight away good start and showing better speed on the first part of the upwind beat.They need to keep an eye on that hydraulic fluid level!