Two-Hour 2013. 23-24 November

[Damien_Toman]

Abusing organisers should definitely not be tolerated.

[cotswold]

There is unskilled riding and then there is immature riding, an unskilled rider gets better with practice, but deliberately immature and aggressive behavior on the track and in the pits needs an attitude correction, unlike MotoGP riders, most of us have to go to work on Monday and don't need to be hurt by an idiot.



This lot were newbees, I have not seen them here before and its been a long time since I have seen any deliberately bad behavior on the track or in the pits, and abusing the organisers.

Every level of rider is welcome at Buckets but not every level of behaviour, my guess is, Cully will stand them in the naughty corner for a bit of time out and then watch to see how they go later.

I imagine this is the same 2 that Camil and I had words with a couple of meetings ago for exactly the same shit. I was not there this time so have no real right to comment but if it is the same ones doing the same things I would tell them to piss off and try doing their thing at a big track.

[FastFred]

Team 12, Hugh Trenhome & David Hall need Buckets more than the Bucket community needs them.

There is a realy good atmosphere at Bucket meetings and people are invested in keeping it that way so I am looking forward to seeing how this pans out.

[speedpro]

They were fairly fast but looked to be over-riding, going beyond their own skill level and the bikes performance capability. As an observer only, they were obvious. Two of their crashes I saw resulted in small amounts of oil on the track. Not sure if that's normal for a smelly 4-stroke or if the bike needs a bit of prep/maintenance.

[jasonu]

Really.....


There is no bloody world championships or prize money up for grabs; so bouncing off someone mid corner isn't going to win you any friends...

I just read a post about #12 on ESE thread. I wonder why the offenders weren't black flagged after maybe their 2nd or 3rd spill if their riding was obviously dangerous to themselves and others. I was teamed up with Paul Dobbs in a 2hr when he was black flagged, yelled at for overly aggressive riding and let back out to finish the race. We lost 3 or 4 laps but he didn't get into anymore trouble (that day anyway).

[mr bucketracer]

I just read a post about #12 on ESE thread. I wonder why the offenders weren't black flagged after maybe their 2nd or 3rd spill if their riding was obviously dangerous to themselves and others. I was teamed up with Paul Dobbs in a 2hr when he was black flagged, yelled at for overly aggressive riding and let back out to finish the race. We lost 3 or 4 laps but he didn't get into anymore trouble (that day anyway).

think thats why my brother was called a steam roller in Auckland ,was 12 from palmy north lol

[Damien_Toman]

There is unskilled riding and then there is immature riding, an unskilled rider gets better with practice, but deliberately immature and aggressive behavior on the track and in the pits needs an attitude correction, unlike MotoGP riders, most of us have to go to work on Monday and don't need to be hurt by an idiot.

Not sure about about being "deliberately immature" but totally agree about the behaviour, attitude and remembering we all want to be fit to earn a living at the end of the racing day. Well said.

Most of us have suffered on the track at some time - from careless riders. We don't want that, for sure. Sometimes we have also made mistakes and dodgy overtaking manoeuvres - hopefully never repeated, having learnt a lesson.

.. my guess is, Cully will stand them in the naughty corner for a bit of time out and then watch to see how they go later.

That seems like a mature approach to me.


Most of us did not see or hear all the shenanigans so I totally accept and respect the decisions of the organisers.

I still enjoyed watching some of their riding - the bits that I did see. The only crash I saw by a number 12 rider did not involve any other riders. I have no idea about the other crashes - no instant replay!

I must say that is was a fantastic day of racing. The fastest ever. On a perfect day. With no injuries (that I am aware of). Well done to all the organising team - great work. Much appreciated by all but the few that step out of line .

[Dutchee]

Not sure about about being "deliberately immature" but totally agree about the behaviour, attitude and remembering we all want to be fit to earn a living at the end of the racing day. Well said.

Most of us have suffered on the track at some time - from careless riders. We don't want that, for sure. Sometimes we have also made mistakes and dodgy overtaking manoeuvres - hopefully never repeated, having learnt a lesson.



That seems like a mature approach to me.


Most of us did not see or hear all the shenanigans so I totally accept and respect the decisions of the organisers.

I still enjoyed watching some of their riding - the bits that I did see. The only crash I saw by a number 12 rider did not involve any other riders. I have no idea about the other crashes - no instant replay!

I must say that is was a fantastic day of racing. The fastest ever. On a perfect day. With no injuries (that I am aware of). Well done to all the organising team - great work. Much appreciated by all but the few that step out of line .

the one injury for the day was in practice, around when I arrived (11ish). Poor Sam V.O. Spent the day in hospital with his dad, in his leathers, and came back to load up at the end of the day. His dad had to stay overnight.

[Damien_Toman]

Hopefully fully recovered or nothing major? Any news?
I arrived well after that for the racing.
The 2-hour though was unusually injury free, from what I saw (with one eye shut and the other glued to a camera for most of the day).

[Dutchee]

Hopefully fully recovered or nothing major? Any news?
I arrived well after that for the racing.
The 2-hour though was unusually injury free, from what I saw (with one eye shut and the other glued to a camera for most of the day).

Sam thought he was okay, "just" concussed, but haven't heard further.

the two hour being injury free was a credit to most riding and having a clue, plus quieter grid from previous years.

[speedpro]

Is there a place we can get a full set of lap times? Cricket had the stuffing knocked out of him in his crash but was lapping most of a second faster than he ever has prior to that, and 2-3 seconds a lap slower afterwards.

Don't worry - sorted