Regaining confidence after a fall

[Mushu]

I ride a twin & know that it will happily pull from just above idle in 2nd & 3rd. That's why I like it, it's lazy. I stand to be corrected but I don't think this a forte of middleweight fours, even mildly tuned ones. Been years since I rode one & that was a CBR which liked revs.
Seems like we're moving ahead. Interested to read the take from other contributors.

My R6 has less pull down low than these bandits and it still pulls quite happily from just above idle in the first 3 gears, obviously it's quite gutless under about 10000rpm compared to when it gets up and going but more than enough power to keep it moving.

It sounds like the OP could spend some time in a car park or similar place to pick up confidence at low speed. It will be interesting to see what the riding instructor makes of all this.

[george formby]

My R6 has less pull down low than these bandits and it still pulls quite happily from just above idle in the first 3 gears, obviously it's quite gutless under about 10000rpm compared to when it gets up and going but more than enough power to keep it moving.

It sounds like the OP could spend some time in a car park or similar place to pick up confidence at low speed. It will be interesting to see what the riding instructor makes of all this.

TBH, most riders I know could use that time. Any bad habits or weak skills stick out like a mutts nuts.

[skippa1]

You missed the post where the lady said her boyfriend does it to. Or perhaps what I percieve to be coasting is actually slipping the clutch which is ok with Drew. Not everyone is into automotive termanology.

Stop using her boyfriend as your backup. Coasting is coasting and stop giving riding advice

[bogan]

You missed the post where the lady said her boyfriend does it to. Or perhaps what I percieve to be coasting is actually slipping the clutch which is ok with Drew. Not everyone is into automotive termanology.

No need to get your panties in a wad then. You gave bad advice, and people rightfully pulled you up on it, maybe pick up a dictionary first next time...

[mossy1200]

Not a lot of point arguing about it. If cost is taken as clutch lever fully pulled in then it would not be my method of cornering. Its most likely going to lead to idling revs that when the clutch is released will break rear wheel traction as it tries to decelerate the bike or not enough g force to keep it upright while on a lean. Slipping the clutch is different but for an inexperienced rider its not a good idea either. Its possible that some people think that first gear mid revs sounds like your killing the bike but second gear almost no revs is a lot worse.

[PrincessBandit]

I understand that many of the posts on here are designed to be helpful, but men in particular can you think through why some of our women riders prefer to post in Biker Angels? Sure, the hard talk might be "correct" and "better to keep you alive", but not everyone wants the hobnail boots down the throat.

Blokes, if you want to abuse the shit out of each other there are plenty of other forums to do it in than us girlies' one.

Not everyone wants their advice (even if it's actually good) to be delivered by sledgehammer. Only some of us can cope with that...

[george formby]

I understand that many of the posts on here are designed to be helpful, but men in particular can you think through why some of our women riders prefer to post in Biker Angels? Sure, the hard talk might be "correct" and "better to keep you alive", but not everyone wants the hobnail boots down the throat.

Blokes, if you want to abuse the shit out of each other there are plenty of other forums to do it in than us girlies' one.

Not everyone wants their advice (even if it's actually good) to be delivered by sledgehammer. Only some of us can cope with that...

I quite enjoy wearing my G/F's stuff when she's at work, titillated actually. Would that qualify? She's good on a bike.

Is this thread in the girlie forum? I was recently accused of playing gay soccer... might be summit goin on.

I jest.

Pause for thought. Why is my better half not a convert to KB? Will set her up & refuse to cook her tea or do the laundry until she contributes. I would love to read what she has not told me over the last couple of years.

[mossy1200]

Is this thread in the girlie forum? .

Yeah it is but I surf recent posts so I didn't look until you mentioned it.
I think that's not important if the responses are about helping with constructive advice related to the original OP.

Am I wrong though?

[george formby]

Yeah it is but I surf recent posts so I didn't look until you mentioned it.
I think that's not important if the responses are about helping with constructive advice related to the original OP.

Am I wrong though?

Na, not at all.
The post above?
If the number of years riding was all it took to be good at it, the average age of the MotoGP grid would be 80.

[mossy1200]

Na, not at all.
The post above?
If the number of years riding was all it took to be good at it, the average age of the MotoGP grid would be 80.

I just think that coasting a corner and even more so for a newer rider sounds a bit of a bad idea myself. Maybe what works for some doesn't for others.

The more I think about it, its most likely the different type of bike and gear ratios and lack of torque left the op with not enough power and traction to retain the angle while turning.

[bogan]

How on earth can 37 years experience be bad advise??? You and your mates cant handle opposing view points or possible opposing view points eh?

Because it took a lengthy discussion to figure out you meant clutch slipping and not coasting, unclear or misleading advice is bad advice, regardless of how much experience the adviser has.

I understand that many of the posts on here are designed to be helpful, but men in particular can you think through why some of our women riders prefer to post in Biker Angels? Sure, the hard talk might be "correct" and "better to keep you alive", but not everyone wants the hobnail boots down the throat.

Blokes, if you want to abuse the shit out of each other there are plenty of other forums to do it in than us girlies' one.

Not everyone wants their advice (even if it's actually good) to be delivered by sledgehammer. Only some of us can cope with that...

From a moderation perspective, the whole of kiwibiker is woefully under-moderated; for some it is why they like it, for others it is why they dislike it, in either case, why should this subforum be an exception?

[PrincessBandit]

From a moderation perspective, the whole of kiwibiker is woefully under-moderated; for some it is why they like it, for others it is why they dislike it, in either case, why should this subforum be an exception?

Oh my darling, surely you jest. Don't be such a tease. Woefully under-moderated? We deliberately walk a fine line between what some would call under-moderated and heavy handed.

As for why should this subforum be any different? It's because we have boobies and va-jayjays but still ride bikes - we sometimes like to have discussions without penises and testosterone laden balls ruling people's digital key-punching.

[george formby]

I just think that coasting a corner and even more so for a newer rider sounds a bit of a bad idea myself. Maybe what works for some doesn't for others.

The more I think about it, its most likely the different type of bike and gear ratios and lack of torque left the op with not enough power and traction to retain the angle while turning.

"Na, not at all" was my way of saying I agree. Soz for any confusion.

[bogan]

Oh my darling, surely you jest. Don't be such a tease. Woefully under-moderated? We deliberately walk a fine line between what some would call under-moderated and heavy handed.

As for why should this subforum be any different? It's because we have boobies and va-jayjays but still ride bikes - we sometimes like to have discussions without penises and testosterone laden balls ruling people's digital key-punching.

Rant and rave might be about right (and PD is fine of course), but all the other subforums, the line should be tightened up a lot.

Sounds a bit sexist to me, a lot of guys would probably like the same thing, but where is our refuge?

[PrincessBandit]

Rant and rave might be about right (and PD is fine of course), but all the other subforums, the line should be tightened up a lot.

Sounds a bit sexist to me, a lot of guys would probably like the same thing, but where is our refuge?

Perhaps. Not really sure about where a man can take refuge to have solely grown up, civil conversations around here. But given that Biker Angels is specifically designed for women to have a less threatening place to post and talk, it is only one subforum out of how many? Obviously guys do post in there too but if we want rough'n'tumble we foot it with the blokies in all the other forums (and don't call the waaahmbulance if we can't take the heat).

having said that, (1) there are guidelines for what is not acceptable (see site rules) and (2) mods understand that keeping 100% of the people happy 100% of the time is an impossibility therefore we try not to lose too much sleep over it.