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    ACC levy cuts

    They still making money and returning benefits to everyone except motorcyclists.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/mone...t-on-the-table

    ACC is proposing a 15 per cent cut in the earners' levy paid by everyone in the work force, a 17 per cent drop in the average work levy paid by employers and self-employed people, and a 15 per cent drop in the average motor vehicle levy paid by vehicle owners.
    The corporation is not proposing changes to average motorcycle, petrol or motorcycle safety levies


    BusinessNZ chief executive Phil O'Reilly said better management of the ACC scheme, based on sound insurance principles, was starting to deliver lower premiums.

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    What a crock of shit, charging like a wounded bull in the first place is the reason they can now offer slightly less high 'premiums' (I still thought it was a levy but whatevs), but not to bikers, cos fuck those guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    but not to bikers, cos fuck those guys
    That's what happens when you're in a quiet minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    What a crock of shit, charging like a wounded bull in the first place is the reason they can now offer slightly less high 'premiums' (I still thought it was a levy but whatevs), but not to bikers, cos fuck those guys
    All because they think us not a large enough group to sway the vote next year
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    The issue is?

    I have a 100% decrease in ACC levies and rego costs associated with my ride. You can too.

    Don't register your bike until the bullshit costs come down.
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    Didn't a National govt do that a long time ago and nearly cripple ACC? Money eh. You should shut the fuck up and pay what you owe.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    lets get going

    submit and lets get some of those fees back to a more reasonable level
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/mone...t-on-the-table


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    haha. Whinge about shit.
    See what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The issue is?

    I have a 100% decrease in ACC levies and rego costs associated with my ride. You can too.

    Don't register your bike until the bullshit costs come down.

    Exactly! Ain't no fucking way I am paying their bullshit levy on two bikes. It's out and out theft. Until they get reasonable about discount on levies for owners of multiple bikes the only thing they will get out of me is scathing contempt, piss and shit. Fuckem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    All because they think us not a large enough group to sway the vote next year
    You'll find (IMHO) that asset sales, fish catch limits, minimum wage, etc. will be higher on the media agenda than us self harmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Didn't a National govt do that a long time ago and nearly cripple ACC? Money eh. You should shut the fuck up and pay what you owe.
    We can all have our 10cents worth by going to the acc website. Copy & paste into their levy consultation format or email- levyconsultation@acc.co.nz BEFORE 15.10.13 at 5.00 pm closing time. My idea of a best case scenario is 100,000 plus emails saying - WHAT PART OF REDUCE THE M/C LEVY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

    Don’t be shy even if big brother can illegally spy on us & if you are paranoid about it, write your email in word, save it onto an M-stick, go to an internet cafe & open a new free email address to send it by. That should take care of being put on a civil disobedience database or traced for any outstanding fines, overdue regos etc. Oops nearly forgot I think your name, address Phone &/or email need to be included so if you want to give a verbal presentation they can contact you. Some formats you can tick the box, others you must write you wish to make a verbal, usually at the end, but big letters at the start would do it too. Do it anyway, even if you don’t want to speak. They might think you really are pissed off, & to them it is a numbers game. That is when things might go our way. Add the public embarrassment of another bikoi to the minister Collins (ex police) unless she is multitasking or brown nosing & doing 2 jobs for the price of one.
    As a diversion, at the last Bikoi to parliament, 2 of the nice policemen with lots of silverware on their shoulders, were discreetly taking photos of the noisiest banner waving protesters, so I took photos of them. They are stored at safe locations.

    One thing that really does piss me off is that being the proud owner of a 650cc bike, I am paying the top levy rate for an extra 50cc.
    Now to add insult to injury, ltsa classify it as a learner approved motorcycle because of the low power to weight ratio. WTF, my PTW is a PITA & my CCs are too!

    AS IF the levy is fair & equitable anyway, this is patently UNfair.
    Rider ability & experience aside, as the levy is based on the cc rating of the motorcycle, acc should adopt the same power to weight system as ltsa for a level playing field. If a learner rider has less experience, the slower speed does level out the extra risk, if any.
    Importers are required to show the PTW so the info is easily available & could even be extended to cars (less 15% of course).
    The real reason we are being screwed is probably less bikers vote national than car owners. So if we all promise to vote national maybe we can get 20% off. Oh well it wont happen as we are not politicians & at least have our integrity but not our wallets intact.
    I will be spreading the message/rant to motonz, bronz, Ulysses, MNZ, m/c clubs, magazines, & forums. So if anybody has other points to add feel free to share.

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    i made my submission telling them our levies needs to go down AT LEAST 15% too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biker baz View Post
    I will be spreading the message/rant to motonz, bronz, Ulysses, MNZ, m/c clubs, magazines, & forums. So if anybody has other points to add feel free to share.
    If you want to look like you know what you are talking about and are up to date with all the legislation etc then don't refer to the LTSA, they ceased to exist in 2004. You want The Agency.

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    is there any eveidence that supporting the system has worked in the past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    That's what happens when you're in a quiet minority.
    I used this in a speech last year:
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