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    While we are repeatedly reminded that times recorded in testing mean nothing, it depends what the team is working on; it is still interesting to note that Crazy Joe on the Pramac bike is faster than any of the factory GP13s.

    A couple of Minichamps models grace my living room, an M1 (#46), and an RC212V (#58). I did not want to buy a Ducati until they started winning again. The awful realisation has dawned that I may have to face reality and buy an earlier model (#27).

    My brother from WA visited a few months ago. He got out of his car wearing a Casey Stoner hat and a silly grin. (The enemy is that close.) So I donned a black and yellow hat: sun and moon, and a number 46. "What's that?" says he.

    He tried the same trick when visiting other brother, "You're not coming in this house wearing that fucking thing!" The winner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah I'm more meaning peeps from the old days/school book of tuning. On our dyno...when we were doing my 883...was torque we were chasing.
    Yeah well that is because an 883 has buggar all HP let alone some lurking in the shadows waiting to be found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Yeah well that is because an 883 has buggar all HP let alone some lurking in the shadows waiting to be found.
    Can't argue with that! But like buckets...every lil xtra helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    While we are repeatedly reminded that times recorded in testing mean nothing, it depends what the team is working on; it is still interesting to note that Crazy Joe on the Pramac bike is faster than any of the factory GP13s.
    I know. Part of me was kind of hoping that the customer Honda would look a little better on the time sheets out the box, but I guess it is a new bike (sort of) and needs some work
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    Smith's 1:30.598 compares to Lorenzo's fastest lap of the entire weekend of 1:30.577. Whichever way you slice it it's a fucking quick lap. He should probably retire on the strength of it
    He's actually inherited Crutchlow's bike and after a couple of days testing on it that time is 0.5secs quicker than Crutchlow managed on it all weekend. No wonder he's left for the offseason with a smile on his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    . No wonder he's left for the offseason with a smile on his face.
    The smile will get wiped off his face as soon as he comes across a mirror!

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    We've seen aggression and determination from Jorge and Dani like never before toward the end of this season been. The wee fella I backed this year, is still my pick for next year.

    Marquez has obviously (to me at least, this is only an opinion after all) told to dial it back at some point. Where the 'old dogs' are accepting that risk is the only way to win with MM on track.

    Tell ya what, after the processional last couple of years, that's got me fair fizzing about next year...Hope the midget don't get fucked up when he crashes, because I think we can expect more lie down time for everyone willing to push as hard as required to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    The smile will get wiped off his face as soon as he comes across a mirror!
    Hoooweee mister hostile! Thought you'd be pleased he went the thick end of a second quicker than Flossi managed all weekend? Dont imagine you can "luck into" a time like that? Suspect Cal's remarks about never being out qualified by Smith all year long may have been the spur to give him the finger?

    Interesting to see that Crutchlow's already developing that worried crease between the eyebrows that Dovi started to exhibit early on last year.

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    Well, another season done and dusted, and the beginings of a new one. I liked David's comments about setting up the Ducati.

    "The Italian had not had anything to test, Crutchlow had spend all day playing with set up. Where yesterday, they had found something to improve the bike at the end of the test, on Wednesday, they found something which made it radically worse. Given that the bike is seemingly impervious to set up changes, with only a tiny window where set up seems to have any effect at all, even finding something which ruins it is useful data. Dall'Igna has his work cut out for him."

    .....sure hope that dude has a magic wand or some fairy dust to help Ducati turn the corner. (Ha, see what I did there, damn I crack myself up sometimes!)
    Disclaimer: I don't actually know what I'm talking about and everything I say should be taken as words of wisdom from a armchair general/mechanic/engineer/racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    Hoooweee mister hostile! Thought you'd be pleased he went the thick end of a second quicker than Flossi managed all weekend? Dont imagine you can "luck into" a time like that? Suspect Cal's remarks about never being out qualified by Smith all year long may have been the spur to give him the finger?

    Interesting to see that Crutchlow's already developing that worried crease between the eyebrows that Dovi started to exhibit early on last year.
    Lol. Nah mate...just keeping myself amused cause he's a Ginga! Good on him. And yeah...CC? Bad move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    Crutchlow had spend all day playing with set up. Where yesterday, they had found something to improve the bike at the end of the test, on Wednesday, they found something which made it radically worse.
    This was a complaint from early in Rossi's tenure. Adjustments were entirely unpredictable. Small adjustment, nothing happened. Another small adjustment - huge difference. Not at all linear. Would have thought that was sorted by now. Things are worse than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    "The Italian had not had anything to test, Crutchlow had spend all day playing with set up. Where yesterday, they had found something to improve the bike at the end of the test, on Wednesday, they found something which made it radically worse. Given that the bike is seemingly impervious to set up changes, with only a tiny window where set up seems to have any effect at all, even finding something which ruins it is useful data. Dall'Igna has his work cut out for him."
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This was a complaint from early in Rossi's tenure. Adjustments were entirely unpredictable. Small adjustment, nothing happened. Another small adjustment - huge difference. Not at all linear. Would have thought that was sorted by now. Things are worse than I thought.

    Sadly a new bike may be the only answer?
    This lack of response to set up changes was meant to be fixed by moving to the twin beam frame, but surprise, surprise it's still exactly the same.

    Everything gets changeed but the engine and the bikes behaviour. You'd think they've got to be linked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Everything gets changed but the engine and the bikes behavior. You'd think they've got to be linked.
    Seems to be the only thing they haven't changed and it may not be the last thing on the list anymore from what I've read about the new boss man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    This lack of response to set up changes was meant to be fixed by moving to the twin beam frame, but surprise, surprise it's still exactly the same.

    Everything gets changeed but the engine and the bikes behaviour. You'd think they've got to be linked.
    anyone remember the RC45........
    anyone remember the issues it had for the first 4 years.
    Ducati might have to swallow some corporate pride.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    anyone remember the RC45........
    anyone remember the issues it had for the first 4 years.
    Yep. As soon as they swapped the 'issue' for Collin Edwards though, it came good.

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