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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Awesome read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    It amazes me that everyone apart from Ducati know what the problem is...
    The thing is while Preziosi was in charge advice about the bike was viewed as criticism and criticism was definitely not welcome. On top of that he was primarily an engine designer so he made the most powerful engine possible and expected the riders to deal with it. The chassis etc was merely a home for his engine.

    This past year they've had a German trying to tell a bunch of Italians what to do and that really hasn't worked.

    But, now I'm betting they've got the right person in place, ie Gigi Dall'Ignia. Actually, I've got beers riding on it for next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Actually, I've got beers riding on it for next season.
    Not with Crasher I hope? Otherwise that's you and Ducati fooked for another season

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    But how long does it actually take, mentally and then physically, to design, tool up, construct, test, de-bug, test, tune and implement a new engine, and on top of that, get the design right????
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    But how long does it actually take, mentally and then physically, to design, tool up, construct, test, de-bug, test, tune and implement a new engine, and on top of that, get the design right????
    Two years. That's how long it took between the announcement of four strokes being introduced, and them to start winning races...first weekend of racing.

    Suzuki set themselves three years for the current bike I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    But how long does it actually take, mentally and then physically, to design, tool up, construct, test, de-bug, test, tune and implement a new engine, and on top of that, get the design right????

    i dont hink they need to start from scratch,they just need to make a more compact gearbox/engine package.I dont think there is anything wrong with the engine itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Two years. That's how long it took between the announcement of four strokes being introduced, and them to start winning races...first weekend of racing.

    Suzuki set themselves three years for the current bike I think.
    When they first went 4 stroke there were a lot of bikes created with poor power deliver because they were using F1 engine designers and the bikes were more than a bit abrupt in the power delivery.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    His writing in Italian is probably great, the item has been translated - badly.
    Thanks for those postings pritch, found them bloody interesting.
    You should hear some of the conversations I have with Italians,bloody comical but we get there in the end. Usually with a big hug !

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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    Thanks for those postings pritch, found them bloody interesting.
    You should hear some of the conversations I have with Italians,bloody comical but we get there in the end. Usually with a big hug !
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    When they first went 4 stroke there were a lot of bikes created with poor power deliver because they were using F1 engine designers and the bikes were more than a bit abrupt in the power delivery.
    Aprilia any one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aprilia_RS_Cube

    I used to read Colin Edwards forum in those days and he had some comical stories to tell about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    Aprilia any one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aprilia_RS_Cube

    I used to read Colin Edwards forum in those days and he had some comical stories to tell about it.

    Edwards' teammate in the 2003 Aprilia team, Noriyuki Haga, crashed the Cube 28 times in a single season.
    damn....that sounds expensive
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    Quote Originally Posted by yod View Post
    damn....that sounds expensive
    yes at least once every meeting on average and twice on 10 other occasions if they were racing today

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    Cameron does and interesting piece on that regarding the MotoGP bikes power delivery and says the most powerful, were way way down the race order.



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    Couple things I read

    Jeepers he's hedging his bets!!
    Don't matter how good the bike is if you've got ALL the best riders on your team.
    They'll need a fare trading commission if he gets his way
    But I don't think Lorenzo will leave Yamaha even it it remains 1% down there's got to be some extra reward in making it win!

    Marca: HRC to try and lure Lorenzo for 2015
    Sunday, 10 November 2013
    In an interview with Spanish newspaper Marca, HRC vice-president Shuhei Nakamoto indicated that Jorge Lorenzo could be a potential signing for their 2015 line-up.
    "Marquez, Pedrosa and also Jorge Lorenzo all have a two-year contract so we'll speak with the three of them (ahead of the 2015 season)," declared Nakamoto.
    Prompted on the role of Casey Stoner, who took part in the development of the RC213V and the RCV1000R "production racer" with various testing sessions this year, Nakamoto indicated that the role of the Australian still had to be decided.


    Here's Lorenzo's comments: let the games begin

    Gazzetta dello Sport: ‘Lorenzo not dismissing Honda for 2015’
    Monday, 18 November 2013
    Several publications, amongst them Italy’s Gazzetta dello Sport, are continuing to mention Jorge Lorenzo’s possible move to Honda for the 2015 MotoGP™ season. Furthermore, the World Champion of 2010 and 2012 is quoted as not dismissing the option: “You cannot rule out any team. You never know what can happen.”
    Lorenzo, whose current deal with Yamaha ends in 2014, continues: “I would like to end my career with Yamaha, retiring as a Yamaha legend. I would like to win another title as Rainey or Lawson did, but I would also like to have the best bike, so hopefully Yamaha will be able to give that to both myself and Valentino (Rossi).”
    At the same time, HRC Vice President Shuhei Nakamoto has already admitted his interest in Lorenzo by confirming that ‘we will talk to him for 2015’.



    And I fully agree with these comment by Spencer the GOAT title remains with Rossi for a few more titles.
    BUT MM has a damn good shot!!! He has the skill and drive does he have the passion and mental stability


    Reuters: Let’s not compare Marquez and Rossi says Spencer
    Monday, 11 November 2013
    Marc Marquez's maiden MotoGP world title at the age of only 20 is great news for the profile of the sport, according to Freddie Spencer, the man whose record the Spaniard broke to become the youngest ever champion on Sunday. However, Spencer also insists the young champion should not yet be compared to former Champion Valentino Rossi – as report global news giants Reuters.

    Interviewed by telephone on Sunday morning U.S. time, Spencer was up early in Santa Monica, California, to watch the historic Jorge Lorenzo vs Marquez showdown at Valencia.

    Spencer, who won his first premier-class crown in 1983 at the age of 21, told Reuters, "Marc is very young, very dynamic and a very likeable kid, a good kid. He loves to ride and loves to race and that shows and I think that bodes well for MotoGP. Marc has won world championships on multiple bikes which is one of the barometers but to compare their talent I think would be unfair to Marc and unfair to Valentino at this point. That's a lot of expectation to put on Marc."


    Does he have what it takes?? I think he has to be honest!! There's always someone better out there aye!!
    There always will be!! Because they observe the master and better his game! Its the natural way!!
    There will always be a new master sooner or later
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    KC on VR & JB...

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