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    Lou Reed has died, RIP

    some one has posted the lamest thread ever on this which does not even say who has died and links to a news story out of Oregon FFS.

    Legendary Velvet Underground mainstay and founder member, and always interesting singer songwriter, composer and lyricist, LEWIS ALLAN "LOU" REED, had died, aged 71.

    Here is a cut and paste of an Artist of the Week I did for a music board I am on: It isnt Lou specific, but its an overview of the Velvets: I can expand on it for the solo career if there is interest but I figure that if any of you have any inkling of or interest in actual rock and roll music then you will understand and be sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by On another board
    First thing you learn is that you always gotta wait”
    Sorry this AOTW is a bit late – I screwed up the time difference thingy.
    The reason I have called you all together is to talk to you about The Velvet Underground. Everybody knows the Velvets, right? Well, surprisingly, like a lot of bands I get the sense they are more talked about and revered than listened to. But I think they are so essential, and so great, that having a listen is totally worthwhile.
    This is not going to be an immaculately researched and footnoted wall of text, what I am going to do is give a brief overview, then a headsup on the albums, then a totally indulgent Top 10 of my favourite tracks.
    So, imagine its New York City in the early -mid 1960’s. The band has four members:
    Lou Reed: Reed had been a paid songwriter for a record company, been to college, plays guitar and sings.
    John Cale: Cale is Welsh, i.e. from Wales and is a classically trained viola player who ended up in New York to pursue avant garde music career.
    Sterling Morrison: guitarist. Played with Lou in an earlier band.
    Maureen Tucker. Drummer and quite the avant gardist (is that a word?) herself.

    Andy Warhol’s Factory happening thing is like, where all the hep cats are at, man. And he becomes their manager (in 1965). He is the darling of the art world and they get a recording contract. And he has this multimedia extravaganza thing called the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, which tours. And the Velvets provide the music for it. Pretty easy to roll your eyes at this point and go “Fuck off, hippies, or “Fuck off art-wank”. But persevere! What saves us is the songs.
    The songs are incredible. You have two main themes going on: the total avant garde thing personified by Cale, and the pop sensibility of Reed. And they write songs about shit that no one else is writing songs about at the time: sado masochism, scoring drugs, transvestitism, weird ass stuff that they see. And sometimes it sounds like a popsong. Sometimes not so much.

    The officially recorded/released output is only four albums!* You really need all four.

    1967 “The Velvet Underground and Nico” - This is the record with the banana on it. Warhol was the nominal producer, and Nico who was a chanteuse (whatever that is – I thought it was some kind of weird liqueur) sings on some songs. (Thus, the & Nico) thing. She flat out cannot sing. Honestly, she is flat. And her voice is deep. I used to hate her songs on this record but I am (to coin a phrase) “Beginning to see the light”. Having said that, this album has “Heroin” (Hey kids, lets do some drugs”) “Waiting for the Man” (Hey kids, lets go uptown to score some drugs” ) and “Run Run Run” on it so I pretty much used to skip her vocals. Not so much lately though. The deep flat drone kind of works with some of the more drone-y material.

    1968: White Light/White Heat. By this stage Warhol has been ditched, so has Nico, and the band are doing what they do. John Cale is on record as saying the record is “Anti- beauty” This album has the song “White Light/White Heat” on it which is (surprise.....) about drugs. Amphetamines to be precise. There are a couple of more experimental pieces (“The Gift” and “Lady Godivas Operation”) plus the songs about drag queens and lobotomies etc. This (despite WL/WH) was the album I took the longest to get into. I find it really great to listen to late at night when tired though, for some reason.

    1969: The Velvet Underground. Cale is out! Reed seizes control! Pop songs abound! New member is Doug Yule who was shoulder tapped after Cale left. This is stark contrast to the last album which is quite abrasive described by Robert Christgau as "folk rock". This has some killer material though: “Pale Blue Eyes”, “What Goes on” and “Beginning to see the Light”

    1970 Loaded. This is actually the first record of theirs I ever heard. A guy I flatted with loved it and would play it over and over. Not hard to see why: “Lonesome Cowboy Bill” “Sweet Jane” “Rock and Roll”, seriously there is not a bad song on this record. If you only buy one album, make it this one.

    And thats it. Two other things to mention. The “lost” album of 1969: they did some recording while on the road, they argued with their record company but they recorded some stellar stuff. This was eventually released (in the 80’s?) as VU. Get it for “Foggy Notion” if for no other reason.

    The final footnote is an album by Doug Yule (trading as The Velvet Underground) in 1973 called “Squeeze”. I’ve never heard it. I doubt I would buy it.

    Oh yeah, if you’re buying Velvets stuff again probably your best bet is to pick up the “Peel Slowly and See” boxset. If for no other reason than the liner notes are great, plus you get hugely expanded (and in some cases demos and alternate mixes and stuff) editions of the four studio albums and another of demos etc. The “Fully loaded” reissues are also good. There is also a huge vinyl boxset I eye hungrily whenever I go into my LRS. But for nearly $300 it can sit there a bit longer....

    OK: my self indulgent top ten (I am reading Nick Hornby’s HIGH FIDELITY at present):

    10:What Goes On
    9:Sunday Morning
    8:Pale Blue Eyes
    7: Heroin
    6: New Age
    5: White Light/White Heat
    4: Sweet Jane
    3: Run Run Run
    2: Rock and Roll
    1: Foggy Notion ( no idea why. I love this song. I have a playlist at work which is this song repeated five times...)

    samples:
    [youtube]NcDuR9BF0Oc[/youtube]

    [youtube]nkumhBVPGdg[/youtube] There is also the Lou Reed solo kick ass rock and roll version of this on Rock N Roll Animal. That plus the intro are worth the entry price

    [youtube]CiT_O90jkUI[/youtube]

    [youtube]VEM1wayCOjI[/youtube] Sister Ray live in 1969 (listen to that git-box!)

    one more:

    [youtube]RT6lL7DGb2Q[/youtube]

    Anyway, I feel I have kind of half arsed this a bit. but its difficult to find a balance with such an important and well known act. If this does nothing else than inspire someone to dust off some dusty old CD's or (even beter) records, then I am happy.
    Lou Reed solo is interesting too. a (it has to be said) fairly inconsistent output but some works of utter genius. His fuck you to glam rock (ROCK N ROLL ANIMAL) his "Fuck you" to his label METAL MACHINE MUSIC (its unlistenable - re-released last year), and some great albums: "Coney Island Baby" "his love song to New York: "NEW YORK" etc.

    There is a whole lot more to his back catalogue than "Walk on the Wild side" which is still a work of untrammelled genius.

    I feel as if someone I know has died. I am sad.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wNknGIKkoA

    sounds of my childhood

    R.I.P
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I feel as if someone I know has died. I am sad.
    Me too. For someone angry at the world, not knowing why, or what to do about it, Lou Reed set the tone of my life in that period. I prefer his solo stuff to Velvet Underground, but a lot of his solo work is his version of those songs, just better production in the '70's. Time for a marathon through my collection today - so much different without the drugs.

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    A sad day so had to break out my fave Reed Album...Set The Twilight Reeling.

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    some time ago i went to a concert in Wellington where Lou reed was gonna play...he was so smashed he could hardly walk or sing.I think he sang a song or maybe two at the most,and that was it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    some time ago i went to a concert in Wellington where Lou reed was gonna play...he was so smashed he could hardly walk or sing.I think he sang a song or maybe two at the most,and that was it...
    Hence the need for a liver transplant probably:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainm...ectid=11147429

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    [QUOTE=HenryDorsetCase;1130630274]some one has posted the lamest thread ever on this which does not even say who has died and links to a news story out of Oregon FFS.

    Um it says who died in the story, which actually originated from CNN, in the link I included you thick cunt. The thread was 'for your information' and I didn't feel it necessary to post anything else as the story was self explanatory so go fuck yourself. Also, what is wrong with a story from Oregon? Oregon is in the USA which by coincidence is the exact same country Lou Reed is from. Would you rather the story came from the Te Kuiti Chronicle?

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    RIP the Man ...

    Only Concert I saw him was early '80's - encore song after about 10 minutes of cheering, he came on and did 'Walk on the Wild side'

    Memorable night ...

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    RIP LOU Rock'n'Roll animal and Lou Reed Live was the sound of my 1970's

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    'Te Kuiti Chronicle?'

    Yes. Do you have a link?

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    The sound of my 1970's:

    Velcro.

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    Another great one leaves us ...

    I'm amused that the news keeps playing Walk on the Wild Side .. thee are so many othe grerat Lou Reed songs ...

    And every punk band in Godzone in the 1970s played Sweet Jane ..

    "One chord is fine, two chords are pushing it, three chords and you're into jazz" Lou Reed ..
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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