Some protest...

[Paul in NZ]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9324...f-consultation

Raglan Fishing Charters' Brian Hooker is worried about the environmental impact on marine life and is threatening to lead a fleet of boats to picket the Anadarko vessel the Noble Bob Douglas when it arrives at the end of next month.

I hope they are all either sailing or rowing out there.... Because where do they think the fuel for their boats and cars comes from?

[Robbo]

Is'nt it amazing how these greenie teleban bastards all drive to these protest sites in their clapped out old bombs that blow smoke everywhere and drink fuel like there's no tomorrow and have the cheek to protest about issues that generally contribute to the NZ economy. The same economy that funds their dole payments. Hypocracy at its best.

[Banditbandit]

yeah .. I'm really sure that Brian Hooker, who owns Raglan Fishing Charters, collects the dole ....

[MisterD]

yeah .. I'm really sure that Brian Hooker, who owns Raglan Fishing Charters, collects the dole ....

Yeah he just drives around the ocean, burning fossil fuels and contributing to the depletion of our fish stocks while calling himself an "environmentalist". Oh-kaaay...

[Oscar]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9324...f-consultation

Raglan Fishing Charters' Brian Hooker is worried about the environmental impact on marine life and is threatening to lead a fleet of boats to picket the Anadarko vessel the Noble Bob Douglas when it arrives at the end of next month.

I hope they are all either sailing or rowing out there.... Because where do they think the fuel for their boats and cars comes from?

204km from shore.
I'll bet he's out there fishing all the time..

[Banditbandit]

Yeah he just drives around the ocean, burning fossil fuels and contributing to the depletion of our fish stocks while calling himself an "environmentalist". Oh-kaaay...

Yeah .. I get that bit - and agree .. it was Robbo's generalization of these people as being on the dole I was responding too ...

[Paul in NZ]

204km from shore.
I'll bet he's out there fishing all the time..

Has to - hes already caught all the stuff close in... ;-)

[HenryDorsetCase]

You're a funny lot.

I think concern about Donnie Darko raping our oceans and deep sea drilling in particular is well founded. This is yet another example of how the profit is privatised and the risk is the public purse.

Drilling over 200m deep is classed as "Deep sea" I gather that these wells are 1500m down. The oceans where they are drilling are amongst the wildest on the planet. The technology to do it is absolute bleeding edge, and the consequences of a cockup will be catastrophic. In fact this is more akin to nuclear power than it is to traditional oil drilling. You think if shit happens Donnie Darko will stick around to clean up? Fuck no, they're back to texas leaving the taxpayers of this country to clean up their shit.

You guys are all focussing on some (in my view) stupid ad hominem arguments and not actually looking at what is happening. Take of your Nazional party blinkers, discount smarmy cunt Key's bland assurance of how relaxed he is about it, and actually think.

Its one of the few areas I agree with Greenpeace on.

[MisterD]

Its one of the few areas I agree with Greenpeace on.

So we chuck it all in the "too hard" basket and go back to our organic yurts and knit our own yoghurt by the flickering light of burning cow pats?

Sorry, I'm going with technological progress and the triumph of human ingenuity...

From the Dom Post's editorial:

Here, unlike the Gulf, the most likely finds are gas and light condensate, not heavy black oil. Here, the pressure in underwater fields is typically so low gas and condensate have to be pumped out. At Deepwater Horizon oil spewed out. Then, a cap for the well had to be designed and built before it could be deployed. Now so-called "stacking caps" are kept at strategic locations around the world, available to be deployed at a couple of weeks' notice.

[mashman]

Fucker must be jealous. Oil is for money, not for progress... else they wouldn't waste so much on trivial shit. Then again, they're only taking oil out of the ground, some other fucker turns it into "product" so it ain't their problem eh.

[Hitcher]

The tree-hugging, whale-fondling, oxygen-deprived brigade, spurred on by a profit-driven multi-national corporation (Greenpeace) are not at all worried (yet) about where the profits go from offshore oil and gas production. They'll move on to that once their current concerns get shot down in flames.

They have onanised themselves into a lather about their perceived risks of inadvertent oil discharges, based on recent events such as the grounding of the Rena and the really big oil slicks in the Gulf of Mexico.

What they are choosing to ignore are facts, science, logic and reason. Offshore oil production is extremely low risk -- less than 0.001%. There are thousands of production sites around the world, many of which are in particularly difficult locations, such as the North Sea, Bass Strait and Torres Strait. Oil companies know what they're doing, and have robust systems in place to minimise risks and prevent spillage or leakage.

The biggest environmental risks associated with sea-borne oil come from vessels colliding, grounding or sinking, not from exploration companies boring holes in the ocean floor.

[bogan]

So we chuck it all in the "too hard" basket and go back to our organic yurts and knit our own yoghurt by the flickering light of burning cow pats?

Sorry, I'm going with technological progress and the triumph of human ingenuity...

From the Dom Post's editorial:

Depends if it is actual technical progress, or whether those wishing to go ahead with the plan just don't care as much about the risks.

I meant here is a lot of ambiguity in that quote, what if they find pressurized heavy black oil? Pack up and go home? Shit hits the fan, can the well capping be done in those circumstances in a timely manner or is it weather dependent, a couple of weeks sounds like a long fucking time for oil to be spewing out.

[Smifffy]

So we chuck it all in the "too hard" basket and go back to our organic yurts and knit our own yoghurt by the flickering light of burning cow pats?

Sorry, I'm going with technological progress and the triumph of human ingenuity...

From the Dom Post's editorial:

Human ingenuity is indeed limitless. So too is human greed when it comes to cutting corners/bending rules to make a buck. It wasn't the lack of engineering nouse that caused the deepwater horizon blowout. Just like it wasn't poor engineering/failure/lack of information that parked the Rena on Astrolabe reef. Was it a lack of ingenuity that caused the leaky homes crisis?\

Mankind has been ingenious since forever, and in our last big resource grab, we ended up with forests devoid of Kauri trees, and rivers and creeks filled with cyanide. All done with the latest technology and with the local economy in mind and at heart.

What will be the real benefit to our economy? Do these companies hire locally? No. Do they spend their profits in their area of operation? No? Look at how rich Papua New Guinea has become from all of the resources drawn from them by multi-nationals over the years.

Do you think this project will make your fuel any cheaper?

We could rather be encouraging companies that are interested in developing fuel & chemicals from forest biomass (trees), we are certainly well placed to do so so, and there is a lot happening in this field.

[MIXONE]

If that "smarmy cunt" donkey is for it then I'm agin' it.

Fucking overblown,used car salesman imo...

[Oscar]

You guys are all focussing on some (in my view) stupid ad hominem arguments and not actually looking at what is happening. Take of your Nazional party blinkers, discount smarmy cunt Key's bland assurance of how relaxed he is about it, and actually think.

I'd like to think that you did that on purpose.
Somehow, I doubt it.