NZ Post - Free push bikes to come

[Murray]

2,000 jobs to be laid off - only made $167 million last year but hey - so what!!

How much profit is enough???

Understand economics but 2,000 jobs???

Can see a change of government coming!!

http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/nz-p...0-jobs-5666515

[Paul in NZ]

Yeah its a bloody tricky one and while they made 167mil last year, revenues are dropping swiftly and costs are climbing. The board has acted like they are meant to do - like a sensible business.

Its a common trait with all traditional postal carriers globally.

Unfortunately - its also bloody hard to transition those kinds of businesses into new ways to make revenue.

[MisterD]

Can see a change of government coming!!

I've never voted National, but I might, just to say "thankyou" for the amusement generated by putting Michael Cullen in this position.

[Rhys]

2,000 jobs to be laid off - only made $167 million last year but hey - so what!!

How much profit is enough???

Understand economics but 2,000 jobs???

Can see a change of government coming!!

http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/nz-p...0-jobs-5666515

So they should employ people just to give them a Job ?

Its a business not a charity!

[Murray]

So they should employ people just to give them a Job ?

Its a business not a charity!

Like winz, acc, doc etc etc its a Government department - They are there to provide a service which just so happened to make $167 mill last year.

Posties went onto ppm (pay per mail) last year which should be the solution to the problem - no mail no pay - however not good enough they have to take it a step further with the 3 day a week delivery.

They laid/laying off 142 workers in the Hamilton processing plant but HELLO they are creating 138 in Auckland processing (at what cost re redundencies, higher payrates in Auckland etc etc). Is that good business??

[Oscar]

2,000 jobs to be laid off - only made $167 million last year but hey - so what!!

How much profit is enough???

Understand economics but 2,000 jobs???

Can see a change of government coming!!

http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/nz-p...0-jobs-5666515

How many letters have you posted this year?

[Maha]

Postal delivery workers are a real part of the smaller community/towns, over the last few months I have been working on our Caravan (when I can) and the postie would stop and chat about it, even get off her bike and come and have close look. We have three different posties that deliver on our street, two would be around in the morning but Jack from up the back normally cruises by sometime that suits him during the afternoon.

[98tls]

Fuck me its bad enough now,i can get something here quicker from the states than i can from Auckland.

[rustyrobot]

How many letters have you posted this year?

And this is really the crux of it. No matter how badly I feel for the posties, and how counter-intuitive it seems to lay off people during a(n endless) financial downturn - I accept that there are just not letters being sent. They may however get jobs as couriers shifting TradeMe parcels about.

[Murray]

How many letters have you posted this year?

Company on average 80 a week

ppm system they introduced means pay per mail - i.e. staff get paid on number of items delivered. Biggest users are ezibuy, trade me , councils, etc

My point is its a government department making good money and 2,000 is a helluva a lot of jobs and especially as above systems have been introduced to reduce costs already.

[Oscar]

Postal delivery workers are a real part of the smaller community/towns, over the last few months I have been working on our Caravan (when I can) and the postie would stop and chat about it, even get off her bike and come and have close look. We have three different posties that deliver on our street, two would be around in the morning but Jack from up the back normally cruises by sometime that suits him during the afternoon.

I'd love to pop around and have a chat with you while I'm working, but I'm not sure the people that pay me would be that happy about it.
I'd also love to live in a smaller community/town but I can't afford to.

These people are paid to perform a service, not be socialworkers.

[Murray]

I'd love to pop around and have a chat with you while I'm working, but I'm not sure the people that pay me would be that happy about it.
I'd also love to live in a smaller community/town but I can't afford to.

These people are paid to perform a service, not be socialworkers.

They are on ppm - paid on what they deliver so they can take as much time as they like as long as its delivered on the day. Jeez stopping and having a chat is just so damn bad isnt it. Oscar - Grump from Sesame Street is it

[cynna]

wonder if that's on top of the 200 middle managers laid off and the 500 odd processing staff????????

[Murray]

wonder if that's on top of the 200 middle managers laid off and the 500 odd processing staff????????

I believe so

[Rhubarb]

Can see a change of government coming!!

Of course it's National's fault, isnt it.

This is a direct 'copy & paste' from the Labour Party website......
"Labour is the party of jobs. It is central to our history, and it is central to our priorities today. We have so many programs that will create and protect decent jobs for New Zealand workers."

I wonder what the CEO did for a job before NZ Post - Oh that's right, he was the Deputy Prime Minister For Labour !!!!!!!
Oh Mr Leopard, how your spots seem to have changed

BTW - All of the current politcal party's have plans and policies that I agree with and that I don't agree with. I'm not sticking up for, or putting down, any particular party here.

2,000 jobs to be laid off

More emotive headlines!
He actually said 1500 to 2000 over 3 years.
They employ around 10,000 people so many of the jobs will be cut (Cut! - another emotive term) through natural attrition e.g. people will retire, change careers, leave to have a family, go oversea's etc.
All of the same reasons that people come and go within the private sector.

It works out to be 5 to 7% of the entire workforce per annum (figures can be used so they appear to soften the news or create a hard hitting headlines. 5% = soft, 2000 = hard)

Headlines and Sound Bites never tell the full story.

Ironically the very medium that is responsible for NZ Posts demise is being used to complain or comment on NZ Posts demise - Internet and email.

Should tax payers money be spent paying Posties to walk the streets with 1/2 empty mail bags?