NZ Post - Free push bikes to come

[IkieBikie]

More emotive headlines!
He actually said 1500 to 2000 over 3 years.
They employ around 10,000 people so many of the jobs will be cut (Cut! - another emotive term) through natural attrition e.g. people will retire, change careers, leave to have a family, go oversea's etc.
Headlines and Sound Bites never tell the full story.
Should tax payers money be spent paying Posties to walk the streets with 1/2 empty mail bags?

He actually said last week 900 up to 1000. Spokesman John Tulloch said the company had 2,200 delivery staff.

[Murray]

Should tax payers money be spent paying Posties to walk the streets with 1/2 empty mail bags?

P.P.M. (sigh)

[Oscar]

They are on ppm - paid on what they deliver so they can take as much time as they like as long as its delivered on the day. Jeez stopping and having a chat is just so damn bad isnt it. Oscar - Grump from Sesame Street is it

It doesn't matter how they're paid, if the service is economically not viable, why should it continue?

There are a bunch of people in this country who brag about small town living and the lifestyle they enjoy whilst sneering at the poor saps who have to live and work in cities. The people who whined about their hospitals, banks and post offices closing in the 80's and 90's, and talked about their "rights" to healthcare and banking services...when most of those sevices were being subsidised by the aforementioned poor saps.

Yep, I am named after the Green Bin Dweller and I'm just getting started...

[Oscar]

P.P.M. (sigh)

So when the system changed to PPM, did posties income reduce?
Should they continue in the job untill they're delivering five bits of mail a day?

You can say PPM all ya like, but it doesn't change the fact that less and less mail is being posted.

[Murray]

I'd love to pop around and have a chat with you while I'm working, but I'm not sure the people that pay me would be that happy about it.
These people are paid to perform a service, not be socialworkers.

They are on ppm - paid on what they deliver so they can take as much time as they like as long as its delivered on the day.

It doesn't matter how they're paid, if the service is economically not viable, why should it continue?

Excuse me, my middle quote (above) was aimed at your comment re stopping and having a chat and how they are paid does matter in this case - not the rest of the stuff you went on about - huff

[Murray]

So when the system changed to PPM, did posties income reduce?
Should they continue in the job untill they're delivering five bits of mail a day?

You can say PPM all ya like, but it doesn't change the fact that less and less mail is being posted.

Does it matter if they get paid for 5 bits of mail?? and yes a number of posties did lose jobs, as in the casual workforce they use to employ dried up and they got no work!

[Oscar]

Does it matter if they get paid for 5 bits of mail?? and yes a number of posties did lose jobs, as in the casual workforce they use to employ dried up and they got no work!

Er - so shouldn't PPM work for three days a week then?

[EJK]

Not as bad as 'Murica!!

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...ch-39b-in-2013

[Murray]

Er - so shouldn't PPM work for three days a week then?

Thats the interesting part - suppose it depends on how much volume continues to drop and also what it evolves into as the feeling is Post will be having a lot more moped/CT110 bikes on streets instead of pedal bikes - faster delivery lower ppm rates and bigger load capacity (i.e. less staff).. Note some of the current cuts will be in replacing kiwibank/postshops with ATM's. Yeah favourite pet hate of mine going to banks etc and waiting in huge queues because "everyone" does it online now!

[Maha]

I'd love to pop around and have a chat with you while I'm working, but I'm not sure the people that pay me would be that happy about it.
I'd also love to live in a smaller community/town but I can't afford to.

These people are paid to perform a service, not be socialworkers.

Postie was on her 'smoko' break, even social workers are allowed one of them.

[cynna]

ppm system they introduced means pay per mail - i.e. staff get paid on number of items delivered..

stands for postie pay model

[SMOKEU]

I want a free push bike.

[imdying]

Pleased to see they're talking refocus on parcel delivery. That's just smart. USPS is cheap as chips and an excellent way to get your shit from the states, hopefully NZP will be as awesome.

[Gremlin]

USPS is cheap as chips and an excellent way to get your shit from the states, hopefully NZP will be as awesome.

USPS is cheap and awesome when it works. When your parcel doesn't turn up, no-one knows where it is...

As said, everyone is being emotive. 2000 is the upper range, and it's not happening by Christmas. This is going to happen over several years, when delivery volumes are expected to fall even further. As also said, there will be natural attrition during that time as well.

The company is responding now, because to react when they're in the shit is piss poor management. If run like a business, yes, they are meant to be profitable. Money isn't growing on trees.

[Tazz]

Thats the interesting part - suppose it depends on how much volume continues to drop and also what it evolves into as the feeling is Post will be having a lot more moped/CT110 bikes on streets instead of pedal bikes - faster delivery lower ppm rates and bigger load capacity (i.e. less staff).. Note some of the current cuts will be in replacing kiwibank/postshops with ATM's. Yeah favourite pet hate of mine going to banks etc and waiting in huge queues because "everyone" does it online now!

They just pulled the ATM OUT of the Kiwibank/Post Shop in Picton last year

Sad to see it change but if it isn't working it isn't working. I hope the prick that keeps on returning to sender my P.O. Box mail that has a valid address yet still the throws in the mail from the old owner in loses their job!