NZ Post - Free push bikes to come

[pete376403]

Should tax payers money be spent paying Posties to walk the streets with 1/2 empty mail bags?

Tax payers money will be spent paying ex-post workers unemployment benefits.

(I guess that many posties won't have a lot of transferrable skills)

[oldrider]

Like winz, acc, doc etc etc its a Government department - They are there to provide a service which just so happened to make $167 mill last year.

Posties went onto ppm (pay per mail) last year which should be the solution to the problem - no mail no pay - however not good enough they have to take it a step further with the 3 day a week delivery.

They laid/laying off 142 workers in the Hamilton processing plant but HELLO they are creating 138 in Auckland processing (at what cost re redundencies, higher payrates in Auckland etc etc). Is that good business??

The Buses, the trains, the Post office and all the other Government services are there for everybody else but you to use!

When nobody uses them they have to close down, its just because of new and modern technology ... people prefer to use that!

Can't blame political parties for that .. blame progress .. if there was none we would all still be sitting in caves at night shivering!

[nzspokes]

Postal delivery workers are a real part of the smaller community/towns, over the last few months I have been working on our Caravan (when I can) and the postie would stop and chat about it, even get off her bike and come and have close look. We have three different posties that deliver on our street, two would be around in the morning but Jack from up the back normally cruises by sometime that suits him during the afternoon.

Interesting as there are only half a dozen runs in your village. And they have time requirements to when they should be off the run.

[nzspokes]

2,000 jobs to be laid off - only made $167 million last year but hey - so what!!

How much profit is enough???

Bikes wont be given away but recycled.

[mashman]

Tax payers money will be spent paying ex-post workers unemployment benefits.

(I guess that many posties won't have a lot of transferrable skills)

I hope they all turn to crime to feed their families.

[jasonu]

Fuck me its bad enough now,i can get something here quicker from the states than i can from Auckland.

Yeah maybe for not much longer. The USPS are feeling the pinch too and are looking at similar cost cutting measures.

[jasonu]

USPS is cheap and awesome when it works. When your parcel doesn't turn up, no-one knows where it is....

The USPS has never lost anything of mine since I started using them 15 years ago. One package I sent via the USPS to UnZud was a month late and was found under a table in a sorting facility in Auckland...

[Ocean1]

Yeah maybe for not much longer. The USPS are feeling the pinch too and are looking at similar cost cutting measures.

Was about 8 years ago that someone did a bit of research on the supposedly instant and infallible email. The results showed that the USPS delivered >99.99% of it's mail, whereas a random selection of email showed only 99.8mumble% delivery. The conclusion was that if you wanted it delivered quick and dirty then email it, but if you wanted it sure then make with the paper.

Don't know if it still applies, my email was pretty much 100% until a couple of years ago, now I'm getting maybe just 96% due to what I suspect may be collateral damage from the corporate war over branding and access.

[98tls]

It doesn't matter how they're paid, if the service is economically not viable, why should it continue?

There are a bunch of people in this country who brag about small town living and the lifestyle they enjoy whilst sneering at the poor saps who have to live and work in cities.

Still sneering mail or no mail.Nobody has to live and work in the cities,its your choice.

[Woodman]

I hope they all turn to crime to feed their families.

Mashmans new world order at work ................

[mashman]

Mashmans new world order at work ................

No it isn't . People losing their jobs through natural attrition is a none issue under the Newly Ordered World.

[Woodman]

No it isn't . People losing their jobs through natural attrition is a none issue under the Newly Ordered World.

But you hope people who don't work to turn to crime.

[caspernz]

2,000 jobs to be laid off - only made $167 million last year but hey - so what!!

How much profit is enough???

Understand economics but 2,000 jobs???

Can see a change of government coming!!

http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/nz-p...0-jobs-5666515

Ah ok, if you're gonna use numbers at least use them correctly. The snail mail business part of NZ Post is still profitable at present, but barely. The profit you mentioned is for the NZ Post group, which includes the likes of Kiwibank, CourierPost, Datamail...

In practical terms mail volumes keep going down, parcel volumes are going up. This change should have been instigated sooner, why should any business get to the point of relying on a subsidy?

But yeah, feel free to get back on your soapbox now...

[oldrider]

We buy things in Auckland today ... it's at our door first thing in the morning next day! (Freight free above $50.00) Courier service!

Auckland to Otematata takes days (sometimes weeks) by fast post!

[Motu]

I'd also love to live in a smaller community/town but I can't afford to.

These people are paid to perform a service, not be socialworkers.

I thought you went to live rural close to a town with a pub and gas station?

My daughter is a Postie in this town, she is supposed to be the relief Postie, an easy number...but they work her hard, sometimes doing 2 rounds in a day, and being out on the streets after 5.00pm in winter in this town is not a good place for a girl.

Currently we have 3 runs in this town - one plan (before this Cullen bombshell) was to make it 2 runs, one day the Postie sorts, the next day delivers, thus making 3 delivery days a week, but still 6 working days. Seems a reasonable plan - cuts staff, cuts delivery days, those employed still get a full working day.