Roastbusters

[Conquiztador]

Somehow NZ has got the idea that these "Roast Busters" are something in isolation. The only thing they did different to others is to brag on fb. And I can tell you there is nothing new in their technique. It is used all around the world. And it has gone on for many many years.

This does not mean I in any way approve.

Once again it comes down to my simple solution to most problems: If all parents took care of their kids we would have no problems.

[husaberg]

Once again it comes down to my simple solution to most problems: If all parents took care of their kids we would have no problems.

Correct but It takes a whole village to raise a child.
It is not done by Facebook friends and there is no app to do it.

[Conquiztador]

Correct but It takes a whole village to raise a child.
It is not done by Facebook friends and there is no app to do it.

Perhaps. But I have been raising my 4 boys alone for the last 13 years and they are turning out OK. It is not that hard really; love them and feed them. (As they become teenagers the order of the two change around...). Add that their home is their safe-haven and you have it sorted.

[husaberg]

Perhaps. But I have been raising my 4 boys alone for the last 13 years and they are turning out OK. It is not that hard really; love them and feed them. (As they become teenagers the order of the two change around...). Add that their home is their safe-haven and you have it sorted.

What i was meaning that childrens while given grounding from home need to be compelled to act to societies standards.
For if as in this case if society is not abhored by this behaviour it is given credence for this sort of behaviour to continue on.

[Conquiztador]

What i was meaning that childrens while given grounding from home need to be compelled to act to societies standards.
For if as in this case if society is not abhored by this behaviour it is given credence for this sort of behaviour to continue on.

Still don't fully agree with you. As a parent it is my job to make sure my kids have the right moral compass and know right from wrong. Sadly there is too much of the "blaming the society for what is wrong with our kids" today. But it is part of where things are going. Today we have rules and regulations for everything and if something goes wrong the first thing people do is to find someone else to blame, and sue them if possible. Instead of taking responsibility for what happened. We sadly have started to expect someone else to have set the rules in place and then if we fuck up we blame the rules not covering what happened. All this instead of common sense and decency. Human kind is soo screwed!

[TheDemonLord]

What i was meaning that childrens while given grounding from home need to be compelled to act to societies standards.
For if as in this case if society is not abhored by this behaviour it is given credence for this sort of behaviour to continue on.

Isn't that a bit of a cop out for bad parenting?

Surely it is the Parents who compell the child to act to a standard, until such time that the child is an adult and then society compells the Adult to act to a standard

[mashman]

Isn't that a bit of a cop out for bad parenting?

Surely it is the Parents who compell the child to act to a standard, until such time that the child is an adult and then society compells the Adult to act to a standard

You can fill your kid full of the best of intentions to the highest standard imaginable and they will display that behaviour whenever they are around you... but the moment your back is turned the kid will implement their own free will and everything that you have offered them in regards to wisdom, experience, morality etc... will all be for nought. But sure, blame the parents.

[TheDemonLord]

You can fill your kid full of the best of intentions to the highest standard imaginable and they will display that behaviour whenever they are around you... but the moment your back is turned the kid will implement their own free will and everything that you have offered them in regards to wisdom, experience, morality etc... will all be for nought. But sure, blame the parents.

If that is the case, then surely at some point in the rich tapestry that makes up raising a child, a thread was cut.

[mashman]

If that is the case, then surely at some point in the rich tapestry that makes up raising a child, a thread was cut.

No thread needed, a bad experience will suffice... society reaping what it has sewn springs to mind for some reason.

[husaberg]

Still don't fully agree with you. As a parent it is my job to make sure my kids have the right moral compass and know right from wrong. Sadly there is too much of the "blaming the society for what is wrong with our kids" today. But it is part of where things are going. Today we have rules and regulations for everything and if something goes wrong the first thing people do is to find someone else to blame, and sue them if possible. Instead of taking responsibility for what happened. We sadly have started to expect someone else to have set the rules in place and then if we fuck up we blame the rules not covering what happened. All this instead of common sense and decency. Human kind is soo screwed!

Isn't that a bit of a cop out for bad parenting?

Surely it is the Parents who compell the child to act to a standard, until such time that the child is an adult and then society compells the Adult to act to a standard

I don't disagree which much you are saying at all but....
Lets put it this way... remember those times say as a kid raiding neighbours orchards and so forth.
When you were up to what was considered pretty harmless fun at the time by you and your mates.
It was likely a dare to do it....
When everyone knew everybody else, and when they cared they told the other parents what was up.
The parents dealt with it etc. Either that or the other party who was wronged put the fear of god into the kids.
That's where the saying that it takes a village to raise a kid comes from, I don't see it as a modern cop out.
Especially since the saying comes from ancient Africa in the first place.