Roastbusters

[Banditbandit]

a lot of people here murder the English language every day. And nothing is done. OH THE HUMANITY

That should be a capital A at the start of the sentence, and a better term would be "Many", rather than "a lot". Don't forget the full stop at the end of the last sentence. You're welcome.

I agree the sentence should start with a capital - but here is a difference between "a lot" and "many" ... as language is a means of communication, different things are communicated by different words ...

[Robbo]

According to an article in todays Horrid, it looks like a complaint was made to the police two years ago.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11152592

I think there is more to this story than has come out yet.

[Laava]

I think there is more to this story than has come out yet.

Oh-oh! A conspiracy? That should be good for another ten pages!

[Tazz]

[Akzle]

Also, it's only a Bill before Parliament at present there's a long way to go before it becomes an Act.

passed third reading nae? Means enacted in 12months unless royal assent sooner nae?

[Mom]

WTF! I am disturbed on so many levels!

When I was a kid growing up, there was a really well known, and understood age limit to legally have sex.

It was 16! That was the minimum age.

It still is!

Of course many of us "kids" blurred the lines around that age limit (I may or may have not rooted the bloke I eventually married before I turned 16, I cant remember exactly).

I guess nothing changes really.

This takes the blurring of those lines to a level that is not acceptable.

Where are the parents of these kids?

Why are the cops not digging deeper?

Cops son may be involved?

Please not that be a reason why there is no investigation happening.

Full and Frank Disclosure, please and thank you.

[tigertim20]

WTF! I am disturbed on so many levels!

When I was a kid growing up, there was a really well known, and understood age limit to legally have sex.

It was 16! That was the minimum age.

It still is!

Of course many of us "kids" blurred the lines around that age limit (I may or may have not rooted the bloke I eventually married before I turned 16, I cant remember exactly).

I guess nothing changes really.

This takes the blurring of those lines to a level that is not acceptable.

Where are the parents of these kids?

Why are the cops not digging deeper?

Cops son may be involved?

Please not that be a reason why there is no investigation happening.

Full and Frank Disclosure, please and thank you.

the 'problem' is that now kids are more aware of the law etc. e.g. there is an awful lot more to the 'age of consent' that just both parties being 16 or over.
sexual connection with a person under 12 = always illegal, end of story.
if one person is aged 13-15, and the other person is aged 20 or under, well theres rather a large gap in the law there, where basically as long as it was consensual, 99% of the time, there is nothing that can be done about it even if it comes to light. theres also nothing legally that can really be done about two people both aged between 13-15 having sex, as long as it was consensual.

I would wonder, if this whole thing is a few years old now, how old were the boys when it happened? were they 15? 16? 17? 19? and how old were the girls?

I dont have TV so I didnt see the news snippet, but how exactly is the 'rape' quantified? because the girl was underage, or because she was physically forced?

there is a difference between an adolescent thinking they are an adult, and making adult decisions, only to later realise they arent an adult, and they have regrets and feel bad for their decisions, vs actually being held down and raped. is there any certainty that this isnt the case here?

[blue rider]

Don't get me wrong...I am all for these boys getting their heads caved in. But I am annoyed at the "fathers and older brothers" too. I am sorry, but where were these fathers and older brothers of the girls that are underage and drunk.

By no means am I saying it is their fault or that the victims were "asking for it". Maybe I am just old school and had a protective dad who didn't let me drink and hang with boys until I was of age and had a more mature understanding of how the world works. Too many times I see very young girls walking the streets and think, where are their parents. (fuck now I sound like my parents)
I am sorry to say, there are some pretty farken messed-up c00nts out there just looking for the right opportunity.

The question is not where the fathers and brothers and mothers of the victim were.

The question is where are the fathers, brothers and mothers of the member of this gang and why did they fail to properly educate these young men that rape is not conductive to a good future.

How come these guys felt it was ok to rape (by their own admission.)

Where have been the parents of these young men. Call me old school, but I do believe that someone should have told these guys that raping someone is a crime punishable by several years of prison. Someone should have explained these young men that raping and humiliating someone is not sex.
And someone should have instilled some sense of respect for fellow human beings in these guys.

[blue rider]

the 'problem' is that now kids are more aware of the law etc. e.g. there is an awful lot more to the 'age of consent' that just both parties being 16 or over.
sexual connection with a person under 12 = always illegal, end of story.
if one person is aged 13-15, and the other person is aged 20 or under, well theres rather a large gap in the law there, where basically as long as it was consensual, 99% of the time, there is nothing that can be done about it even if it comes to light. theres also nothing legally that can really be done about two people both aged between 13-15 having sex, as long as it was consensual.

I would wonder, if this whole thing is a few years old now, how old were the boys when it happened? were they 15? 16? 17? 19? and how old were the girls?

I dont have TV so I didnt see the news snippet, but how exactly is the 'rape' quantified? because the girl was underage, or because she was physically forced?

there is a difference between an adolescent thinking they are an adult, and making adult decisions, only to later realise they arent an adult, and they have regrets and feel bad for their decisions, vs actually being held down and raped. is there any certainty that this isnt the case here?

a. girl was under age - statutory rape (in any case if one is less and up to thirteen of age, as they can not legally consent)

b. intoxication - it is generally considered rape or sexual assault if someone gets his/her ways with a person that is so intoxicated that they cannot consent. i.e. you are out on morphine in a hospital and an orderly will have his/her way with you. You might not be screaming NONONONO, but you are also not consenting to having a sexual relationship with the orderly. This is considered Rape.



As for these guys, they knew what they were doing. They thought they get away with it (consider that the police states they can not do anything as no victim has laid charges). They bragged about it, showing it to the Bitches, hahaha, can't unrape the raped girl etc. Watch the little clip, its fun.

The scary thing is that they might have been doing it for years and if they would not have been called out would have continued to have their ways with young girls that have fallen for a pretty face and are going on a date with a predator, just to be gang raped.

[Zedder]

passed third reading nae? Means enacted in 12months unless royal assent sooner nae?

Nope, only introduced yesterday so another 6 stages to go yet. And shit.

[Scuba_Steve]

According to an article in todays Horrid, it looks like a complaint was made to the police two years ago.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11152592

I think there is more to this story than has come out yet.

NZ biggest crimminal gang talking shit, now theres a surprise...

Nope, only introduced yesterday so another 6 stages to go yet. And shit.

Dont worry they'll chuck it through under "emergancy" soon enough

[Zedder]

Dont worry they'll chuck it through under "emergancy" soon enough

Doubt it, it'll be the middle of next year from what I read. There is no emergency and cyber bullying isn't the real issue with the "roast busters" anyway.

The real issue is to do with the underage sex/rapes.

[Berries]

I'd tap it.

[Berries]

No, no, no. Burn them.

[Scuba_Steve]

Doubt it, it'll be the middle of next year from what I read. There is no emergency and cyber bullying isn't the real issue with the "roast busters" anyway.

The real issue is to do with the underage sex/rapes.

Maybee you've missed the types of laws being passed under "urgency"