Drug testing?

[haydes55]

Do you mean to tell us that you haven't actually found out yet whether the current batch of tests are able to check for all the legal highs that are currently available?

I'm in semi-retirement from racing at the moment so not risking my ass. I don't know the full list of chemicals it shows up nor which of those chemicals come from legal highs. I do know if any test can show legal highs, a urine sample will.

[Katman]

I'm in semi-retirement from racing at the moment so not risking my ass. I don't know the full list of chemicals it shows up nor which of those chemicals come from legal highs. I do know if any test can show legal highs, a urine sample will.

So, in other words, you don't care sufficiently to bother finding out?

[haydes55]

So, in other words, you don't care sufficiently to bother finding out?

I asked the SNZ steward and he said he didn't know, but presumed it would show up. I have no internet nor any contact details of drug testing agencies.

As far as I know legal highs were made illegal over a year ago. So are an illegal drug and as such can be detected in a urine sample, thus creating a not negative result.

[Katman]

I asked the SNZ steward and he said he didn't know, but presumed it would show up. I have no internet nor any contact details of drug testing agencies.

As far as I know legal highs were made illegal over a year ago. So are an illegal drug and as such can be detected in a urine sample, thus creating a not negative result.

Clearly, you don't know shit then. There is a large number of psychoactive substances currently being sold - perfectly legally. I pointed out the list to you a few pages ago.

However, I'm glad that we've finally established that you're happy to persecute someone who may have used Cannabis sometime in the last few weeks but don't really care whether someone else who has smoked up large on legal highs, on the way to a race meeting, is given the same treatment.

What a crock of shit.

[Katman]

I have no internet.....

Are you projecting your words onto the screen via mental telepathy?

[Kickaha]

However, I'm glad that we've finally established that you're happy to persecute someone who may have used Cannabis sometime in the last few weeks

Or they may have used it in the last few minutes so fuck them

[Katman]

Or they may have used it in the last few minutes so fuck them

So perhaps the swab test is a better option than the urine test.

And how about you Warwick, do you give a fuck whether the current range of tests pick up the presence of legal highs or not?

[Kickaha]

So perhaps the swab test is a better option than the urine test.

And how about you Warwick, do you give a fuck whether the current range of tests pick up the presence of legal highs or not?

I have no idea what they test for and how they test for it, I know we have a list of medicines we cant use and maybe that list should be expanded to include all that legal high shit, fucked if I want to share the track with anyone using it

[Katman]

I have no idea what they test for and how they test for it, I know we have a list of medicines we cant use and maybe that list should be expanded to include all that legal high shit, fucked if I want to share the track with anyone using it

I find it interesting that there is no mention whatsoever on NZDDA's website regarding testing for legal highs.

I think there's a far bigger issue to address here, rather than automatically assuming that the presence of THC indicates any sort of impairment.

[onearmedbandit]

Buuuut, as several obviously well-informed members here have argued, Cannabis is illegal.

[Katman]

Buuuut, as several obviously well-informed members here have argued, Cannabis is illegal.

And I'm sure that none of those well-informed members would have ever done anything that's remotely illegal.

[Madness]

I'm glad that we've finally established that you're happy to persecute someone who may have used Cannabis sometime in the last few months but don't really care whether someone else who has smoked up large on legal highs, on the way to a race meeting, is given the same treatment.

What a crock of shit.

I fixed that for you.

[scumdog]

And I'm sure that none of those well-informed members would have ever done anything that's remotely illegal.

So??

[Katman]

So??

Do you not understand context?

[Drew]

Do you not understand context?

Do you not understand that those of us who might have done something illegal, knowingly, are not arguing our right to do so?

The legal high thing is worth the powers that be looking into. That you cannot find what is and is not tested for on the NZDDA website, makes sense to me. A dedicated stoner that still had half a brain could simply swap to something not being tested if he knew it, and come to work/track baked as fuck.

You know what a zero tolerance policy is, so other than the legal high question you raise, I don't see why you continue with the "months after use" stuff.