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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I have asked him for the sauce of that information...
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    But the implication is clear: if you think motorcycle safety levy increases and thus registration costs have reached their peak, be prepared for another 30% rise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post
    Aye, like Australia.

    I didn't care too much on long weekends because, (a) I stay at home to avoid the numpties and (b) people might be able to concentrate on their speed a bit more for a few days, maybe. But once the novelty wears off this will just be kerching, kerching, kerching, kerching...

    I would love to know if using a vehicle with paranoid attention on the speedo can contribute to accidents. My gut says yes, but I have nothing with which to back it up.
    There's something about it here, in particular paragraph five:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...imits-imposed/

    The Northern Territory will be starting a trial of no speed limit on a 200km section of open road from February next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yawn. Told ya this would happen.

    So what? It's still totally optional to get ticketed.

    Don't want to? Don't speed.
    It must be so nice in Black and White land....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post

    I am no speed merchant, but 5km/h over is trivially easy to achieve unless one masters chameleon eyes: one eye on the speedo and the other on the road.
    and is your speedo that accurate, are the tyres the correct size for your vehicle, they removed the need to check the accuracy of the speedos from the WOF checks at the same time they started this 4km/h shit, so you've now got a government certified check without a check on the speedo!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    and is your speedo that accurate, are the tyres the correct size for your vehicle, they removed the need to check the accuracy of the speedos from the WOF checks at the same time they started this 4km/h shit, so you've now got a government certified check without a check on the speedo!!!!
    the idea being that obeying the lor is an absolute requirement, and its on you, and you can't weasel out by saying "But the state-sanctioned body which should have checked it, did check it and it was all right, because look, I have a WOF that says the vehicle is compliant". What it in fact says is the vehicle was compliant at the nanosecond it was checked (which in my view is an argument for the abolition of the WOF entirely, and replacing it with the same onus as speed: it is up to you to ensure your vehicle is compliant, and woe betide if it is not particularly if you are involved in a crash"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post
    I would love to know if using a vehicle with paranoid attention on the speedo can contribute to accidents. My gut says yes, but I have nothing with which to back it up.
    Distraction is the biggest killer on our roads bar none, steering at a speedo has done more damage than "speeding" ever will

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I wish the police would focus more on poor driving, people holding up traffic (not pulling over) not indicating etc
    I don't believe traveling at 110 on a straight section of motorway is dangerous
    yea but how ya supposed to make the cash moneys off that? They need to increase the $$$ value 1st but don't worry slow driving will be the next target once they find they can't lower the speed limits anymore
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    I think it is widely accepted that most road users do NOT stick to the 100kph open road speed limit. A small percentage will always travel under 100kph and the rest on or just over 100kph. Raising the tolerance to 105 is a good thing and does not make me want to drive/ride any faster than suits me. I have no problem with it at all. The policing of the 100kph speed limit however, should include stopping those who want to travel at 70-80kph, which is where I feel that some will take an unnecessary risk when passing these oblivious drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigadee View Post
    And shouldn't they spend more energy on making roads better, rather than targeting motorists?
    Yeah, that'll work. A whole pile of uniformed cops out filling potholes on the state highways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Thats great, but why arbitrarily move the tolerance? Heck, I wouldn't care if they left it at 5km/h - the issue I have is that it is different at different times of the year. Assuming the conditions allow I like to make the most time efficient progress possible on the open road - now I have to think whether its different tolerance time or not whereas before I would just *know* the boundaries.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I wish the police would focus more on poor driving, people holding up traffic (not pulling over) not indicating etc
    I don't believe traveling at 110 on a straight section of motorway is dangerous
    I agree with them ^^^ Especially Rhys!
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    It does have a sniff of BS around it. It would seem that speed by itself is rarely if ever the direct cause of an accident. What we do have firm evidence of is the correlation between the level of carnage resulting from road traffic incident (not an accident because that implies noone was at fault, spot the movie quote) and the speed the vehicle or vehicles were moving at when the incident occurred.
    What CAUSED the incident in the first place is usually either inattention or bad decision making or a combination of both.

    Heres a classic example. We were riding home. On SH1 sitting behind a ute+trailer for several kms whose speed was fluctuating between 60-80kph. Get to a two lane section of road and we mirror, signal, headcheck, manoevre to pass this guy whose legal speed should be not more than 90kph when road conditions allow. At 115kph we begin to get past him. I was paying attention to the road when we resumed the left hand lane but I would say we were clipping 120kph at that point and just about keeping in front of this guy. Who is more in the wrong? What was his decision making like? What was ours like?

    Another. Proceeding south on SH1. Approaching a built up area on 2 lane road. Lead rider is in front of me 95-100kph, passing vehicles travelling much slower. He is in the left wheel track of the right hand lane. I am 2 seconds behind in the right wheel track of the right hand lane. My bike is about .95m wide. Group of riders approaching from behind. Still at 95-100kph. The rider immediately behind me disappears from my mirror. I hear, then see him coming along side me on my right hand side between me and the crash barrier on his american made large cruiser style motorcycle with exhausts producing lots of dB and hard luggage further widening his machine. I made an evasive manoevre in response (I dont mind admitting I was scared) He was moving past about 10kph faster than me. This group is immediately in front of us for the next several kms so clearly his manoevre has gained much in terms of progress and time.
    What possible difference would it have made should this muppet have been travelling at 104 not 110kph?

    Shit decisions cause people to die or be injured. Speed merely determines the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yeah, that'll work. A whole pile of uniformed cops out filling potholes on the state highways.
    Didn't realise pot was that caustic as to make holes in the road.
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    Of-course too this lower tolerance will coincide with increased presence of scammers on passing lanes & downhill sections
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    A small percentage will always travel under 1000kph
    Actually, the percentage that travel under that is probably very large, like 100%, now that we haven't got an air force.

    All of December and January because they are the summer months. Wait until the dipshits figure out that February is summer too. Guess I'd better buy some new batteries for the detector display?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yeah, that'll work. A whole pile of uniformed cops out filling potholes on the state highways.
    Why not, its more useful than what you pricks are usually doing, giving out bullshit tickets for highly dangerous activities like not having rego (I had a WOF), not wearing a seatbelt, or doing 58 in a 50 at 3am on a Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I wish the police would focus more on poor driving, people holding up traffic (not pulling over) not indicating etc
    I don't believe traveling at 110 on a straight section of motorway is dangerous
    This is correct inho.

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