Referendum on Asset Sales

[Banditbandit]

Three more days to cast your (useless) vote ...

[oldrider]

Three more days to cast your (useless) vote ...

Hmmmmm ... "locking the door after the horse has bolted" ... back in the day we were taught to understand the futility of that at a very early age!

education ... which way did it go?

[haydes55]

Everyone's bagging John Key for selling the assets, but does no one remember that Helen Clark was the PM who legalised the sale of "assets".

[pete376403]

Everyone's bagging John Key for selling the assets, but does no one remember that Helen Clark was the PM who legalised the sale of "assets".

David Lange I think. 4th labour government. Prebble was minister of SOE (Sell Off Everything)
State-Owned Enterprises Act 1986
Public Act 1986 No 124
Date of assent 18 December 1986

[oldrider]

SOE'S were for sale right up until 1999 when Helen Clark came into power, put the sales on hold and bled them for everything they could by raising power prices sky high!

Labour also bailed Air NZ (mainly IMHO) so that the politicians didn't lose their "lifetime" travel perks!

Ask who pays for her to travel back and forth on Air NZ from her perky job with the united nations? ... we (taxpayers) do! (forever)

[husaberg]

SOE'S were for sale right up until 1999 when Helen Clark came into power, put the sales on hold and bled them for everything they could by raising power prices sky high!

Labour also bailed Air NZ (mainly IMHO) so that the politicians didn't lose their "lifetime" travel perks!

Ask who pays for her to travel back and forth on Air NZ from her perky job with the united nations? ... we (taxpayers) do! (forever)

I guess the UN might pay for her travel,but yes we still end up with the bill regardless. but you remember Gentleman Jim Boulder.
What did he end up with, a cushy job as an ambassador then a director of two of the companies he public-ally didn't want and wanted sold.lol

Be bloody interesting to see what Mil-keytiNational John Key ends up with my monies on Halliburton or Pfizer.

[Banditbandit]

I guess the UN might pay for her travel,but yes we still end up with the bill regardless. but you remember Gentleman Jim Boulder.
What did he end up with, a cushy job as an ambassador then a director of two of the companies he public-ally didn't want and wanted sold.lol

Be bloody interesting to see what Mil-keytiNational John Key ends up with my monies on Halliburton or Pfizer.

Like Doug Graham ?? End up with a knighthood and a criminal conviction for shonky company practice ..

[oldrider]

Like Doug Graham ?? End up with a knighthood and a criminal conviction for shonky company practice ..

What was the first thing JK restored upon taking up the office of PM? and more significantly ... Why? Then ask who benefits?

What is it that a man with everything else desires most ... public reward by recognition ... how would Sir John Key sound?

IMHO ... that would do it every time for our John boy!

[haydes55]

David Lange I think. 4th labour government. Prebble was minister of SOE (Sell Off Everything)

State-Owned Enterprises Act 1986

Public Act 1986 No 124

Date of assent 18 December 1986

I was actually alluding to the prostitution laws lol.

So the nation can pay taxes to get fucked... Literally haha

[husaberg]

Like Doug Graham ?? End up with a knighthood and a criminal conviction for shonky company practice ..

Or the "honorable" pansy Wong.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...er-travel-perk

http://gazette.govt.nz/notice/id/2011-vr6530

[oldrider]

The title of this thread should have read : "The Green party Referendum on Asset Sales" it is a "political party" initiated referendum rather than citizens!

It is simply a party political advertising stunt outside of the normal election advertising period at the (continued) "Taxpayers expense"! a pathetic slap fight really!

[geoffc]

Early results indicate 1.3 million plus bothered to vote in this poll. Impressive. 67% against Asset Sales. Maybe the Greens have their finger on the electoral pulse because that is a clear message by voters.

[oldrider]

Early results indicate 1.3 million plus bothered to vote in this poll. Impressive. 67% against Asset Sales. Maybe the Greens have their finger on the electoral pulse because that is a clear message by voters.

The bible also says "the meek shall inherit the earth" Yeah right, that will be a great help!

[Jantar]

Early results indicate 1.3 million plus bothered to vote in this poll. Impressive. 67% against Asset Sales. Maybe the Greens have their finger on the electoral pulse because that is a clear message by voters.

No it wasn't 67% against asset sales, it was 67% against partial sales.

Imagine you have 3 candidates standing for your electorate.
Candidate A for National
Candidate B for Greens
Candidate C for Labour.

When you come to vote the voting paper simply asks "Do you support Candidate B as your next MP?" A and C are not mentioned. How will you vote?

In this referendum there were 3 main choices: No sales; partial sales; or full sales. But the only choice we had to vote for was partial sales. The other 2 choices were not mentioned. Thus the NO vote only tells us that Partial sales was not the preffered choice. It still doesn't tell us how many are against ALL assett sales.

In fact there should have been 15 choices available. 5 comapanies with 3 possible choices for each.

[carbonhed]

Stealing 9 million dollars of taxpayers money winds up with catastrophic defeat for the Greens and Labour.

The first citizens initiated referenda run by and for political parties gets by far the worst result of all CIR.

2009 CIR to repeal smacking law changes had 1,470,755 votes jn favour
1999 CIR to reduce the number of MPs to 99 had 1,678,054 votes in favour
1999 CIR for tougher sentencing for criminals had 1,886,705 votes in favour

What did the hand wringers manage? 895,322. 29% of eligible voters.

Incredibly 432,950 people told them to fuck off. Even though there was absolutely nothing riding on the referendum result and no need for them to vote at all.

Epic fail.