Tokoroa, 7-8 December

[fixer]

Qualifying results and laptimes attached:

[fixer]

Practice results and laptimes attached:

[mr bucketracer]

thanks fixer for the lap times

[Bert]

Took a while to figure out how the new camera works (and how to convert to a smaller file; hillbillie bandwidth issues)...

Here's race one:




I'll load up race two over night.

And race 2



Interesting overtaking lapped rider issue on second to last lap at the bottom of the hill.
Not quite sure if it warranted the arm waving now I've seen it on video...

Jolly good weekend.

[Str8 Jacket]

Farrrk I was slow!!! Esp compared to everyone else!

Was some awesome racing despite the weather, great to catch up with everyone too! Can't wait for Tamarunui

[Dutchee]

Farrrk I was slow!!! Esp compared to everyone else!

Was some awesome racing despite the weather, great to catch up with everyone too! Can't wait for Tamarunui

To make you (and I) feel better, look at the times on practice 2, both Brian and AndrewA were slower than us lol

at least you were riding and having fun, and it was the first race since January this year. Ai've had a couple of fun races this latter part of the year, and know I am not really any faster on my 150 compared to my 100, hence me taking the 100 along, she is so much fun to ride lol

thanks heaps Tim for putting up the timing, hopefully someone comes up with an easy way of doing it, so it's not such an issue for you.

[Dutchee]

And race 2

http://youtu.be/L15qcJM2XnI

Interesting overtaking lapped rider issue on second to last lap at the bottom of the hill.
Not quite sure if it warranted the arm waving now I've seen it on video...

Jolly good weekend.

which race was that in? I thought Regan got held up a bit by some back markers (Bert and Chris) where the gap closed up between Rick and him in race two. I also know that's not what you're talking about, and the discussion I had, was that it was totally unnecessary (the arm waving).

[kel]

And race 2
Interesting overtaking lapped rider issue on second to last lap at the bottom of the hill.
Not quite sure if it warranted the arm waving now I've seen it on video...

Arm waving? I was trying to shake a stone out of my glove.
I don't think too many riders would enjoy having their brake lever collected ...

[Rick 52]

Another great weekend, lots of competitive racing, love watching the vids
Results look interesting, looking forward to RD 2

[Bert]

Its all good in love and war (and the heat of the battle on track). that is where it has to stay though.
you can just run out of room on these little tracks and some are not always aware of their lines will affect the ones trying to overtake.

in this case maybe the speed differential between the top and bottom end of the field was a little bigger than normal.
but I know for one it was so much fun being at the back end of A than the very pointy end of B; even if im too slow...

I shouldn't have posted up anything. Sorry.

[Henk]

Nah don't apologise, a few others had commented on the day and if we don't discuss these things they become acceptable behaviour.

[kel]

Nah don't apologise, a few others had commented on the day and if we don't discuss these things they become acceptable behaviour.

OK lets discuss it. What are flags for, do we pass under the yellow, do we ignore the red?
Funny thing was I was really disappointed that I shock my fist at the guy but you know what, fuck it its racing. If back markers want to block and try and use the whole track when being lapped then they should get used to arms being waved.
Henk and Michele who would have guessed.

[Dutchee]

OK lets discuss it. What are flags for, do we pass under the yellow, do we ignore the red?
Funny thing was I was really disappointed that I shock my fist at the guy but you know what, fuck it its racing. If back markers want to block and try and use the whole track when being lapped then they should get used to arms being waved.
Henk and Michele who would have guessed.

Kel, I would back up the bus about now. people with attitudes like you have caused me to stop turning up - do it enough, and you will be the only one wherever you manage to find a place to ride.

I was asking which race it was in, as I had heard about it, but had no idea what it was about. I was curious, and if it is wrong of me to ask about it, so what. Best you never come near me, you are now also on my shit list, which actually takes some doing, I am impressed.

[Str8 Jacket]

OK lets discuss it. What are flags for, do we pass under the yellow, do we ignore the red?
Funny thing was I was really disappointed that I shock my fist at the guy but you know what, fuck it its racing. If back markers want to block and try and use the whole track when being lapped then they should get used to arms being waved.
Henk and Michele who would have guessed.

I was the flag marshal watching the entire thing. I really should not have to reiterate however, it is the passers responsibility to pass in a safe manner and I did not think that your fist shake was appropriate - you hit him from behind for one and yeah it's racing but shit happens when you hit other riders. And really it's *only* racing and we're all supposed to be mates.....

[Henk]

Henk not Michelle just to clarify.

Yes you are right, it's racing, but we aren't racing for sheep stations.
Also I had kept out of this but others had raised the issue. Not only about the fist waving but the fact that you seem to have hit him on the way through, lapped traffic or not the onus is on the overtaking rider to make a safe pass, as someone who gets lapped occasionally myself, a lot of the time you have no idea somebody is behind you.

Maybe I'm a bit sensitive on this point at the moment because we had some rather major issues with over aggressive riding at the two hour this year, maybe I'm over sensitive because it's my name on the paperwork, maybe I'm a bit dark because the whole weekend ended on a it of a sour note for me, not because my bike shat itself and admittedly screwed the days racing for everyone else, but because as per usual the same six people were still there at the end of the day vacuuming the club rooms and moping the floors in loos.

Give me a break Kel, the group of people that put these things on are doing it because we want to race and because it's fun, when we get people making what appear to be agressive moves on track and then appearing to get pissed about what looks like blameless behaviour from others, it takes a big chunk of the fun out of it, especially two weeks after somebody had a major shouting fit at the steward of the meeting for being told that repeatedly running into people was unacceptable behaviour.
If you feel I'm being too harsh, sweet, I'm quite happy to take a step back, pay my money on the day and just ride my bike, with the caveat that you pick up the jobs that I've been doing for the past year or so.

Rant over.