Godzone falling in the international education ratings

[BoristheBiter]

We did not have that when I went to school ... by the time that came in people of my age or older were complaining about the poor standards of people leaving school ...

See ... somethings never change ...

the next generation is always dumber and blames the previous for the failings.

[Banditbandit]

the next generation is always dumber and blames the previous for the failings.

So then .. is this a real issue (falling education standards) or a false one ???

[BoristheBiter]

So then .. is this a real issue (falling education standards) or a false one ???

I would say yes.

[oldrider]

and the sheep is back....

The trap was set and the rat walked straight on in ... as expected! Fuck wit!

[Ocean1]

I can admit that perfectly fine thanks...

I'm pleased that you can at least see that whatever education you may have had was a resounding failure.

Unfortunately, that's not a very good foundation from which to be debating economics.

Now fuck off and find someone else to blame for your spectacular and multitudinous deficiencies, everyone here donated at the office..

[SVboy]

The trap was set and the rat walked straight on in ... as expected! Fuck wit!

Get a life...oh sorry..you do...and this is it. And I'm the fuckwit?!!!

[mashman]

We did not have that when I went to school ... by the time that came in people of my age or older were complaining about the poor standards of people leaving school ...

See ... somethings never change ...

heh... and Boris backs that up too.

the next generation is always dumber and blames the previous for the failings

They're not always dumber, coz they can work out why the last generation failed them.

I'm pleased that you can at least see that whatever education you may have had was a resounding failure.

Unfortunately, that's not a very good foundation from which to be debating economics.

Now fuck off and find someone else to blame for your spectacular and multitudinous deficiencies, everyone here donated at the office..

It wasn't the education I required.

Why not?

Awwwww that's sweet. Fuck them very much from me too please.

[Banditbandit]

I would say yes.

The perfect demonstration ...

[BoristheBiter]

It wasn't the education I required.

Why not?

.

Because some monkeys can't be trained?

[BoristheBiter]

The perfect demonstration ...

Of fence sitting?

[avgas]

Don't think it's the government's fault alone. A percentage of the popluation (kids, parents, educators whatever) seem to think it's ok to take the easy educational options because maths and science is "too hard", then wonder why employment options are limited. It's a bloody sight more complex than blaming John Key's lot

Many people in NZ think that Uni is a waste of time and money. So why would they want kids to have an education - entry into what.

Any slack jawed yokel can make good money in NZ being a fool.

The whole attitude towards education in NZ has to change.
People should have 3 lives in NZ, social, work and education. If they fail in one of those 3 - off to a respected boot camp.

[mashman]

Because some monkeys can't be trained?

ha ha... almost correct. All of the training in the world wouldn't have helped me because I didn't want training. Adults eh, so 2 dimensional.

[avgas]

In some cases. if you had a shit teacher you learned nothing or had no wanting to learn.
As they say them that can do, them that can't teach.

In many times of my life I had people teaching me that were shit or out to get me.
And I have had some nasty fucken teachers........ones that knocked me back YEARS in my education.

Doesn't mean I stopped getting educated, or stopped pursuing education. That is weak - fact of the matter is 1 teacher is not an impact on a childs life. A lazy parent is.

Shit happens, have a cry about it and move on. If you made all your life assumptions based on the last person who showed you it you would be a fucked individual and probably not riding a bike.

[BoristheBiter]

In many times of my life I had people teaching me that were shit or out to get me.
And I have had some nasty fucken teachers........ones that knocked me back YEARS in my education.

Doesn't mean I stopped getting educated, or stopped pursuing education. That is weak - fact of the matter is 1 teacher is not an impact on a childs life. A lazy parent is.

Shit happens, have a cry about it and move on. If you made all your life assumptions based on the last person who showed you it you would be a fucked individual and probably not riding a bike.

That's true, but if you had/have shit parents a good teacher makes all the difference.

I'm glad I learnt quickly how to spot the good ones or the ones that were wasting my time.

[BoristheBiter]

ha ha... almost correct. All of the training in the world wouldn't have helped me because I didn't want training. Adults eh, so 2 dimensional.

Kids aye, don't know whats good for them.