Red light mounting

[jellywrestler]

There were a lot of taillights lying around the track at HD at the weekend, please people have a bit more of a think when mounting them to ensure that they don't go west form things like double sided tape, velcro etc.

[Deano]

There were a lot of taillights lying around the track at HD at the weekend, please people have a bit more of a think when mounting them to ensure that they don't go west form things like double sided tape, velcro etc.

Mine hung on during qualifying (bracket mounted and secured with a cable tie).

The problem was it was given to me and obviously a shit brand that was not water proof. So even before I got to pit lane it had let water in and wasn't working properly (very dim).

Lucky I was late and didn't comprehend what the marshal was yelling at me as I went past.....I thought he said 'yeah go', but it must have been 'wait no'.

[Billy]

There were a lot of taillights lying around the track at HD at the weekend, please people have a bit more of a think when mounting them to ensure that they don't go west form things like double sided tape, velcro etc.

Mine hung on during qualifying (bracket mounted and secured with a cable tie).

The problem was it was given to me and obviously a shit brand that was not water proof. So even before I got to pit lane it had let water in and wasn't working properly (very dim).

Lucky I was late and didn't comprehend what the marshal was yelling at me as I went past.....I thought he said 'yeah go', but it must have been 'wait no'.

There will be a clarification posted on the MNZ and Cemetery circuit websites tomorrow morning as well as a mail out to all licence holders,Explaining exactly what is expected of the competitors and the consequences.

But seriously "It was given too me" is NOT an excuse,It is the competitors own responsibility to ensure that they have procured a light that is suitable to last the distance and is fitted securely,Personally I have fitted mine permanently,But thats more because I weigh the same as a small sparrow and weight is no issue for me,Also there will be a safety rulechange applied for to state they must be fitted in a position on either the left or right of the machine as I have been advised that in heavy rain,The lights fitted to the centre are hidden in the spray from the rear wheel,In the event you do not comply I would assume the steward would show you the black flag.

[Mental Trousers]

Also there will be a safety rulechange applied for to state they must be fitted in a position on either the left or right of the machine as I have been advised that in heavy rain,The lights fitted to the centre are hidden in the spray from the rear wheel

So bolting it to the unused pillion footpeg hanger would be ok then?

[Deano]

There will be a clarification posted on the MNZ and Cemetery circuit websites tomorrow morning as well as a mail out to all licence holders,Explaining exactly what is expected of the competitors and the consequences.

But seriously "It was given too me" is NOT an excuse,It is the competitors own responsibility to ensure that they have procured a light that is suitable to last the distance and is fitted securely,Personally I have fitted mine permanently,But thats more because I weigh the same as a small sparrow and weight is no issue for me,Also there will be a safety rulechange applied for to state they must be fitted in a position on either the left or right of the machine as I have been advised that in heavy rain,The lights fitted to the centre are hidden in the spray from the rear wheel,In the event you do not comply I would assume the steward would show you the black flag.

Hey Billy you know I have a lot of respect for you mate, but when you say the rule is to be clarified, then it seems to me it wasn't well drafted in the first place.

On Saturday there were flashing lights, non flashing ones - from memory the rule does not explain which is ok - correct me if I'm wrong.

I wasn't attempting to make an excuse - when I turned the light on at the start of pit lane it worked fine - but 20m later it was much dimmer. It appeared to me to be a pretty standard red light that you could buy from any bicycle shop, which I'm sure you advocated in earlier comments. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

Some central mounted ones I saw were still clearly visible despite the spray. How far to the side of the machine will they need to be then ?

Mounting them permanently may pose problems in that you need to take them apart to change the batteries.

I don't want to argue about it - you get enough of that already, but if the rule clarification could cover all of the above points that would be awesome - any chance we will be advised before Sunday and Round 2 of the Suzuki Series ?

Thanks for the heads up - I have bought a new one already (a Catseye reputable brand that the seller assured me is waterproof and will not come off its mount - not that mine did come off).

[jasonu]

,Also there will be a safety rulechange applied for to state they must be fitted in a position on either the left or right of the machine

Shouldn't they be fitted to the same side of all machines?

[Billy]

Hey Billy you know I have a lot of respect for you mate, but when you say the rule is to be clarified, then it seems to me it wasn't well drafted in the first place.

On Saturday there were flashing lights, non flashing ones - from memory the rule does not explain which is ok - correct me if I'm wrong.

I wasn't attempting to make an excuse - when I turned the light on at the start of pit lane it worked fine - but 20m later it was much dimmer. It appeared to me to be a pretty standard red light that you could buy from any bicycle shop, which I'm sure you advocated in earlier comments. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

Some central mounted ones I saw were still clearly visible despite the spray. How far to the side of the machine will they need to be then ?

Mounting them permanently may pose problems in that you need to take them apart to change the batteries.

I don't want to argue about it - you get enough of that already, but if the rule clarification could cover all of the above points that would be awesome - any chance we will be advised before Sunday and Round 2 of the Suzuki Series ?

Thanks for the heads up though - I have bought a new one already (a Catseye reputable brand that the seller assured me is waterproof and will not come off its mount - not that mine did come off).

Nope,

The clarification is for those who didn't understand what was expected of them and the consequences of not bothering to make a reasonable effort to comply.Yes it will be taken care of before sunday and I have spoken with Flea this afternoon and it will be brought up at riders briefing(Obviously I cannot guarantee that will happen as I am not officiating).

In regard to my statement re the use of a cycle light,Yes that is correct,I did say that and that's exactly what I use on mine,I stupidly thought that all would do what I did,Which was to ask when purchasing it that it would do the job,Pretty simple task and only cost $15 retail.I'm sure you are correct re some of the lights being visible through the spray,But I have received info from experienced stewards that not all do,I would imagine just to the left or right of centre would suffice,But some I have seen are mounted on the rear of the footpeg hanger or muffler mount,Flashing or no static will suffice,I received arguments for and against both and decided to leave it up to the individuals.

[Billy]

So bolting it to the unused pillion footpeg hanger would be ok then?

Yip,Sure would

[nzspokes]

http://www.bikebarn.co.nz/accessorie...ights.html?p=2

Lots of options for mounting there.

[Deano]

Nope,

The clarification is for those who didn't understand what was expected of them and the consequences of not bothering to make a reasonable effort to comply.Yes it will be taken care of before sunday and I have spoken with Flea this afternoon and it will be brought up at riders briefing(Obviously I cannot guarantee that will happen as I am not officiating).

In regard to my statement re the use of a cycle light,Yes that is correct,I did say that and that's exactly what I use on mine,I stupidly thought that all would do what I did,Which was to ask when purchasing it that it would do the job,Pretty simple task and only cost $15 retail.I'm sure you are correct re some of the lights being visible through the spray,But I have received info from experienced stewards that not all do,I would imagine just to the left or right of centre would suffice,But some I have seen are mounted on the rear of the footpeg hanger or muffler mount,Flashing or no static will suffice,I received arguments for and against both and decided to leave it up to the individuals.

Thanks Billy.

I have had a quick look at my bike and have several mounting options available to me so will get that sorted before Sunday.

[SWERVE]

Well I had gone to the trouble of grafting the original tail light lense back into the seat unit with a suitable LED ( of correct size) mounted behind the lense. Making it both waterproof and as it is hard wired..able to be switched on by the rider via handlebar control and automatically switching off when ign off.
Looks like my pretty tail light lense is now redundant. But looks good
good job we have a spare clip on on
IMHO if the spray is that bad............. mounting position is irrelevent

[Gremlin]

Also there will be a safety rulechange applied for to state they must be fitted in a position on either the left or right of the machine as I have been advised that in heavy rain,The lights fitted to the centre are hidden in the spray from the rear wheel.

Just an FYI

From a flag marshal's point of view, the performance of the lights at HD for Rd1 of the Suzuki Series varied heavily in performance. Some were large, very visible and even through the spray, including one of the front two sidecars. The light was big and bright, no problem. Obviously the rigs also kick up a much bigger cloud of spray. Mounting positions seemed to also vary a lot, affecting visibility from different angles, but presumably dead on from the rear is the most important, for other riders.

I know there are minimum and maximum sizes for the light, not sure if it's active leds (or equivalent) or the light body, but some seemed to be little more than a single line of 4-5 leds, and those didn't cut it for the spray. Also, not sure if side mounting would really make much of a difference, as the body of a bike is quite narrow, and the spray isn't a thin line most of the time (at least not in heavier conditions).

[HenryDorsetCase]

...I thought he said 'yeah go', but it must have been 'wait no'.

same thing innit?

[CHOPPA]

Well I was one of the riders that went to a lot of effort to wire it up and install it properly!!

Good thing its 1mm off center or id be pissed that I had a hole in my undertail

[Kickaha]

Some were large, very visible and even through the spray, including one of the front two sidecars. The light was big and bright, no problem.

Sounds oversize, might have to protest him