Seen National's Tax Policy!?

[Flyingpony]

"National leader Don Brash said the low tax rate of 15 cents in the dollar would move from $9000 to $12,500 and there would be a 19 cent tax rate between $12,500 and $50,000.
Income between $50,000 and $100,000 would be taxed at 33 cents in the dollar and the top rate of 39 cents would kick in after that. "

Wow. That is a nice step in the right direction.
At least everybody will get some pie.
Labour's idea means only some selected people will get some pie and the rest of us will suffer being no better off.
Do wonder what the side impact of National's idea is?

Link here

[Str8 Jacket]

Yeah, definately seems like they are trying to look after everyone. The one thing I did like was the fact thaat they are proposing tax cuts for working families, should definately be a good incentive. Be interesting to see which party gets in and if they actually do make these proposed changes though . . .

[Lias]

I was planning to vote National before this, just an extra incentive really. I dont agree with all of Nationals policies by any means, but Labour has got to go.

[TonyB]

Just checked out Labours carrot.
It's official- my wife and I would be better off seperating and taking one kid each. We get nothing if we're together, but about $100 a week each if we split up. If we had another kid we'd only get about $45 a week between us.
So once again a govt policy that discourages 2 parent families will probably go ahead

My biggest gripe with the money that Labour have "found" is that they clearly knew they had it all along. They've "discovered" it so they can use it as an election bribe. While they've been sitting on this money, how many people suffered or even died waiting for surgery? How many people suffered because there aren't enough cops on the beat? How much money did the economy loose due to poor roading? And why did we need the extra tax on our petrol?

[Suney]

Can someone tell me about labours tax policy and how it compares to nationals.

[vifferman]

My biggest gripe with the money that Labour have "found" is that they clearly knew they had it all along. They've "discovered" it so they can use it as an election bribe. While they've been sitting on this money, how many people suffered or even died waiting for surgery? How many people suffered because there aren't enough cops on the beat? How much money did the economy loose due to poor roading? And why did we need the extra tax on our petrol?

Indeed.
I've been a Labour supporter for years, but I'm pissed off with them for this, and I'm also not at all happy the way the proposed tax cut will be applied. I know they're a slightly left of central gubmint, and favour socialist policies, but this is dumb.

But having said that, I have no faith in any of the parties, and would really like to be able to vote "No confidence" to tell them all theyr'e a pack of self-serving, jumped-up eejits, who care more about themselves than the good of the country. We don't need more laws, more gubmint, more taxation - we need some commonsense, a return to personal accountability/responsibility and decent values, and less emphasis on Keynesian-based economic policies.

[kerryg]

We don't need more laws, more gubmint, more taxation - we need some commonsense, a return to personal accountability/responsibility and decent values, and less emphasis on Keynesian-based economic policies.

I want to vote for THAT party.. :spudflip:

[Flyingpony]

Can someone tell me about labours tax policy and how it compares to nationals.

I'd like to see a chart comparing each party against another on some common points, along with any respective pro/cons of their idea.

At the moment, I've no idea who stands for what. Don't watch TV, listen to radio or buy papers and snail mail quickly ends up in the paper recycle bag because lack of in-depth detail. Where's that chart, that's what we need.

In terms of which party I'm going to vote for: no idea. Don't like supporting parties who then don't come true with their word or who's election promise won't kick in till several years time.
Voted Green's when they first came out because of their anti-GE stance. So much good they were for standing up. We've still got GE food products on our shelves and still hear in the news about GE contamination of seeds.

[mikey]

what would hitler say

[Lou Girardin]

I won't be voting Labour because they've maintained monetarist policy while fiddling around the edges with social experiments.
And I won't be voting National because I don't like ACT.
Winnie baby are you there?

[Quasievil]

what would hitler say

About what and who cares ? not to mention hes rightly dead so very little I think

[Deano]

Just checked out Labours carrot.
It's official- my wife and I would be better off seperating and taking one kid each. We get nothing if we're together, but about $100 a week each if we split up. If we had another kid we'd only get about $45 a week between us.
So once again a govt policy that discourages 2 parent families will probably go ahead

How many families do you know of where the father lives "round the corner" or "up the road" in order to benefit from this - not a good policy at all is it ?

My biggest gripe with the money that Labour have "found" is that they clearly knew they had it all along. They've "discovered" it so they can use it as an election bribe.

The 'honourable' ??? Dr Michael Cullen said there was no slush fund of money sitting in the govt coffers. Lying b@#$&%. Nothing like throwing some dosh around to buy votes.

[TonyB]

How many families do you know of where the father lives "round the corner" or "up the road" in order to benefit from this - not a good policy at all is it ?.

Well personally I don't know of any- yet. If they get in again I'd be willing to bet we'll all know more than one.

I had another go on Labours calculator.
Like I said- if we seperated and took 1 kid each, we'd get about $100 a week each. If we seperated and one of us kept both kids they'd only get around $150.
If we stayed together, to get an extra $200 a week, we'd have to have between 5 and 6 kids... this policy is a liiiiiitle strange

The 'honourable' ??? Dr Michael Cullen said there was no slush fund of money sitting in the govt coffers. Lying b@#$&%. Nothing like throwing some dosh around to buy votes.

Yep, and your (insert ageing relative here) is probably on a massive waiting list for vital surgery because there is 'no money'. Bullocks!

[MrMelon]

Sounds like National should score a few more votes with this one.

There's a pretty good website here which compares the parties policies on various issues. http://www.nzvotes.org/

Did anyone see that program on 3 last night called "The Pretender"? It followed a national candidate around for a day around the Wakatipu South electorate. It was hillarious! It felt like I was watching the office at times.
Here's what the tv3 site has about it.

The Pretender
10:25 PM SUNDAY

Where is the real battle in Election 2005? 3 has found it in the deep south of New Zealand – where two candidates are locked in a ding-dong battle for power. See their struggle when The Pretender premieres on Sunday, August 21st at 10:30pm on 3.

The two candidates have been followed for the past month by Otago film maker Cassie Young, who originally started making the documentary for Otago Regional Television.

Now 3 has scooped up the rights – this material is extraordinary, insightful, sad, and bizarre.

“It is must-see-TV if you want to see a real election battle,” network executives says. “We have never seen two candidates so hell-bent on consuming each other. As soon as we saw the material – we knew it had to go on national television.

“We couldn’t believe the material Cassie Young was shooting,” the executives continue. “She’s found a cracking little story in the south. The two candidates are very funny – without realising it. She has got in very close to the yarn – a true skill – and peeled the skin off some very thick skinned people.”

Otago Regional Television has released the documentary for national broadcast because the station felt it deserved a wider audience.

OTR Managing Director, Greg Brown, says the two politicians have been brave in allowing such access, but refuses to give the game away until broadcast.

“It is the classic political battle: right versus left; man versus woman; money versus common sense.

“We have all promised Cassie that we won’t spoil her story until it gets to air. So everyone here is tight lipped. But we encourage everyone to take a look.”

Cassie Young – the student documentary maker – says she decided to call the programme The Pretender – a nickname she has given one of the candidates.

“One candidate sits out there on the right, but really the stars are the politicians who have allowed me into their hearts and their homes. This is their story.”

Young has been surprised at the depth of interest in the seat.

“Helen Clark appears in the first episode – and is really behind her candidate. It is amazing who has come through the town. It illustrates just how tight this seat is. Murray McCully, Bill English and Rodney Hyde all appear in the documentary backing this man.”

Young says media commentators, including Matt McCarten, say the seat is so close it could be won on a handful of votes. And this, she says, has led to a fascinating and sometimes nasty battle.

[Motu]

National with policies to woo the working man? How low have they come? Brash is less trustworthy than Winstone,he needs to be kept away from power.Another year of protest votes for me,just like the good old days.

Actualy I may not be able to vote.I got my papers in the mail some months back,signed and sent off....but they came back saying I hadn't lived at that address long enough,then another one came saying I'd been there long enough...so signed and sent off - but...you are too late and I'm not on the roll.Well,tuffuckingluck I say.