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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    T'other day my McBollock chainsaw seized when I started it, $239 from Bunnings. It's 9 months old, done some very hard, hot, days but puleeeeeze.


    Any hoo, buying the Solo, oil mix came up in the conversation. I ran the Mcseized at the specified ratio, 40:1, but apparently this only applies to specific full synthetic oils otherwise it's 25:1. Whats up with that? Book says 40:1, the little gubbins on the chain saw says 40:1, how is a simple man to know?
    Ok... My sympathies George, its no fun buying a chainsaw only to have it die an early death. I'd be very cross.

    Your experience is a good illustration of when knowledge is unevenly distributed. And perhaps also an illustration of why buying small engines from specialists is the wiser choice.

    I grew up learning that two stroke mix was 25:1. And that is a good rule of thumb when you are uncertain.

    When I bought my first Stihl 18 years ago, the Stihl guys explained 50:1 for the synthetic oil which surprised me but it works. I've used Stihl oil ever since and share four Stihl saws in my family. They are priced slightly above Husqvarana and maybe not much different but my experience is Stihl every time.

    Outboard motor two stroke oil is not the same - it has a different ash content and outboards rely on water for cooling. Don't use it in a chainsaw.

    The synthetic oil for saws looks expensive but it goes a long way. Bought 4 litres four years ago and it isn't empty yet.

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    ...although being told to buy a Stihl or Husky instead of cheaper makes, is probably not what an irregular user of a chainsaw wants to hear, and there are certainly makes of 'lesser' saws that seem to plod on for yonks, it is a sensible way of looking at it...the expense of using high quality synthetics like Stihl oil works out a hell of a lot less in the long run...my 026 Stihl has been hammered for twenty years... country boy stuff... big trees, all our firewood, pruning, clearing...other peoples trees, pruning, clearing and gets the hedge trimming bar on every year to fight with the massive hedge we have, I have yet to change the plug in all those years, and recently an O ring or seal in the petrol tank has let go and it leaks a little fuel when full...I'm still in love with it...on one occasion when I lost my Stihl oil from the back of the truck I was forced to use a mates non synthetic stuff for a day...25:1...a bit fumier but no problems...like someone mentioned, too much in the mix will result in leaning out...I know of some riders who would throw a bit of Castrol R in their tank, despite enough oil being delivered through the oil pump...just to give it that, 'smell'...often they were very surprised to find out that they elevated the risk of holing a piston or seizing by doing this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...although being told to buy a Stihl or Husky instead of cheaper makes, is probably not what an irregular user of a chainsaw wants to hear..

    ..the expense of using high quality synthetics like Stihl oil works out a hell of a lot less in the long run...my 026 Stihl has been hammered for twenty years... country boy stuff... big trees, all our firewood, pruning, clearing...other peoples trees....

    ....I have yet to change the plug in all those years, and recently an O ring or seal in the petrol tank has let go and it leaks a little fuel when full...I'm still in love with it...
    Oh yeah.

    I enjoy chainsaws. Maybe its my farming background.

    If a man had a choice, he'd have three saws. One small one 30cc 14 inch bar to prune shrubs creepers, garden stuff and for climbing into high limbs on trees. Light and very handy. Such as a Stihl MS181 or 211.

    A medium size 40cc for the larger stuff. Stihl MS 261 or 291.

    And a serious saw for the difficult and large work. Stihl MS 440 or 460.

    Of course life isn't that simple and most of us buy one saw for all jobs. So my advice is (just like motorcycles) bigger is better.

    I say this because I'd been thinking about small saws because my main saw is a beast. Stihl 066. Its bloody heavy and tried to take my leg off one day. But so what! There is no substitute for power and this saw pushed through 800mm of dry willow (nasty stuff) in under a minute per cut.

    You will never regret buying quality equipment and bigger is actually better.

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    Im putting my money on the boot between the carb and engine not being tightened properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Oh yeah.

    I enjoy chainsaws. Maybe its my farming background.

    If a man had a choice, he'd have three saws. One small one 30cc 14 inch bar to prune shrubs creepers, garden stuff and for climbing into high limbs on trees. Light and very handy. Such as a Stihl MS181 or 211.

    A medium size 40cc for the larger stuff. Stihl MS 261 or 291.

    And a serious saw for the difficult and large work. Stihl MS 440 or 460.

    Of course life isn't that simple and most of us buy one saw for all jobs. So my advice is (just like motorcycles) bigger is better.

    I say this because I'd been thinking about small saws because my main saw is a beast. Stihl 066. Its bloody heavy and tried to take my leg off one day. But so what! There is no substitute for power and this saw pushed through 800mm of dry willow (nasty stuff) in under a minute per cut.

    You will never regret buying quality equipment and bigger is actually better.
    yeah. Nah. See ive got a 180 /1? and used pretty much everything on your list. Even when i had the 2xx and 066, the 180 got most of the work.
    Being said, id take the 2xx if i was buying an all porpoise.

    The 18x is easy to haul and doesnt take up much space on a quad, and between a chainsaw and a quad, there arent much places i cant get.
    Ive put down 40ft wattles with it.
    Keep your chain sharp and cut properly and a little saw is competent for most jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Your biggest mistake was not buying a decient make like Stihl.
    Yeah, I've run a Stihl for years - on Stihl oil at 50:1 .. just runs .... regular service new plugs .. keep the air filter clear and the chain sharp ...

    Cuts me firewood every year ..
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    Got to say, the Solo is a different beast to the McCulloch. Even though it's bigger & heavier it's easier to use, seems to rev lower but is more torquey. I'm already cutting bigger stuff & it just munches through, no struggling. Still on Castrol at 25:1, can't find any full synth round here. The Castrol is bright blue so maybe full synth any way. Saw does not smoke but is hesitant to lift the revs from idle, got to tap the trigger before a full squeeze of throttle.

    When I was at the Husky dealers he showed me an American assembled saw and a Chinese one, both genuine, both identical on the outside. The Chinese one was the same as my old, seized saw, crap chain brake, crap plastic, generally crap & cheap. So, buyer beware, Husqvarna do proper saws & disposable ones.

    Did a bit of research on the Solo & found no horror stories, just the opposite. Cheaper than Stihl or Husqvarna but just as good.

    Any hoo. Oil?

    Anyone get their oil online? I want to buy Motul full synth 2t for the DT & the preferred oil for the saw but can nae find it aroon aboot. Prices at the Stihl & Husky shop are eye bleeding! The Motul I just can't find.
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    Even the big "Name" brands have three different class of chainsaws (throughout the entire size range) ... Home (light use) / Farm (Moderate use) / Professional (hard use).

    Buying by brand names alone will not always cut the mustard ... you get what you pay for. See the agents for ANY particular saw you buy and ask what recommended oils/ratio's are best for THAT saw. even state you intended use amount to confirm its suitability for you. As already stated ... the warranty may be void if you didn't follow the manufacturers guidelines.
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    ...no matter what brand they are, they will still make your life a pain...

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    I still think the dead saw basically cooked itself. Worked it for between 7 & 9 hours for 3 days. Summit like 30 ltrs of fuel. Poor wee thing.

    Got about 6 m2 of fire wood to do soon & a big ass Black Wattle to fell & dismember. Gonna need help with the felling, it's 4ft across at least. Bit much for a scaredy cat like me.
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    If it is hesitating from idle, then your low jet screw needs a tweek.
    Keep it sharp and clean, you'll be right.
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