Where to buy shit that ISN'T made in China.

[Tazz]

At least some of the manufactures over there are hard out heavy metal fans.


They even make toys with heavy metal in/on em for kids to start out young. That's commitment to the cause

[gammaguy]

Closing Hillside in Dunedin that made decent railway wagons etc because the Govt effectively encouraged buying Chinese running stock. Slightly cheaper but shite. NZ skilled jobs lost. Couldn't believe their shortsightedness.

Don't make me laugh

Being shortsighted and saving a cent now and paying a dollar later is the kiwi way

The Chinese love it

[slofox]

Eh? Think you have the wrong thread man. Earplugs? There are NZ made ones I believe.

Mmmm...too much Christmas cheer, eh...

[jasonu]

Are you being sarcastic or not there?

Min wage is already to high here. That's part of the problem. Min wage goes up....EVERYTHING goes up. And who becomes the worst off from it? Min wage earners

Don't forget that on top of the high min wage NZ employers have to pay their employees a shitload of holiday pay and stat holiday money which adds a significant amount to the final cost of the product or service.

[Akzle]

Don't forget that on top of the high min wage NZ employers have to pay their employees a shitload of holiday pay and stat holiday money which adds a significant amount to the final cost of the product or service.

while i accept that paying people a "reasonable" amount is one of the largest "expenses" of a business, i'd say the tax at every step of the way, the insurance, re-insurance (every step of the way) and all the other bullshit that goes with the fucked up capitalist way, is a far higher cost...

[Swoop]

I have discovered this site which supports NZ made products. Easy to deal with as well!

http://www.checkoutnz.co.nz/

[Quasievil]

I would hazard a guess that at least 80% of everything piece of property of KB members here is property originating from China, lets start with your wardrobes

[slofox]

I would hazard a guess that at least 80% of everything piece of property of KB members here is property originating from China, lets start with your wardrobes

As in "Fabric woven in Italy" (but garment made in China)..?

[Motu]

I would hazard a guess that at least 80% of everything piece of property of KB members here is property originating from China, lets start with your wardrobes

Isn't that the point of this thread ? With a daughter being a dressmaker I could have most of my clothes locally made with her label inside - but she tends to put buttons on the wrong side.

[Tazz]

Don't forget that on top of the high min wage NZ employers have to pay their employees a shitload of holiday pay and stat holiday money which adds a significant amount to the final cost of the product or service.

Yeah you just about need to make 100k for each fulltime employee to cover all the costs. After that you're making profit....that goes back into the business. Add some more and you start making money to feed yourself XD

But as mentioned insurances, ACC and all that stuff costs a fair whack too, not to mention you have to pay more for everything as a business. Even the PO box is just about double the cost (even though you can't get half the things you want delivered to it. WTF is up with that!). The Chch EQ hasn't helped insurance costs and demands either. Kiwisaver is an added cost too. It all adds up. I've been out of the job market for a while but I'd imagine Kiwisaver incentives will be included in the wage agreement you sign up too rather than a bonus add on as it has been in the past.

I have discovered this site which supports NZ made products. Easy to deal with as well!

http://www.checkoutnz.co.nz/

Cool wee store.


And back to your bodyboard man, you could have a crack at it yourself if you've got some spare time. A friend made his own surfboard out of carbon fibre. He may have snapped it....but the second one is still going all good, honest XD

[Berries]

I would hazard a guess that at least 80% of everything piece of property of KB members here is property originating from China, lets start with your wardrobes

Mitre 10.

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[gammaguy]

I would hazard a guess that at least 80% of everything piece of property of KB members here is property originating from China, lets start with your wardrobes

No... Let's start with your motorcycle

Most Japanese bikes are now made in the Golden triangle of China Indonesia or Thailand

Oh.... and so are Triumphs

[Akzle]

No... Let's start with your motorcycle

Most Japanese bikes are now made in the Golden triangle of China Indonesia or Thailand

Oh.... and so are Triumphs

back the fuken truck up.
Who in their right mind would buy a trumpy?

[pritch]

back the fuken truck up.
Who in their right mind would buy a trumpy?

Ummm would need to find someone else to vouch for the "right mind" thing - or otherwise.

KTM, Harley, and others are now made in India as are some Brembos. My BMW riding kit was made in the former Yugoslavia. My Held gloves were made in Hungary not Germany. Some SIDI boots are now made in Romania rather than Italy. The manufacturers go where the labour is cheaper.

A Gerber made in China should be OK, mine is. So is my USA made Gerber, and the Spyderco that was made in Japan. My SJ50 was made in China but to Suzuki standards. There was a post on KB from someone who had worked in China and said what you really need to know is if the client company actually had quality control staff on the end of the production line. Unfortunately that info is not available.

I have previously bought items of Columbia clothing from Farmers Trading, made in China of course. Last winter I couldn't see any so I asked wassup. I was told that the quality was crap so the whole shipment was returned to China. They may try again this year. Evidently Farmers was one customer that didn't have QA staff on the line?

When buying stuff on Ebay I could usually find stuff made in USA, Italy, Germany, Canada, or Britain. At work our computers could not access TradeMe but I could shop up a storm on Ebay each time I bought a new bike.

[oldrider]

fuck china. seriously. fuck the lot of them.

i would most (99/100) times rather pay more for quality and then i never have to buy another one again,
unfortunately, some things made in china are distributed by reputable companies with good service and shit. but fuck them too.

so. if anyone gives a fuck. post up shit that isn't made in china. right now i'm looking at

bosch cordless drill (hungary)
coleman chilli bin (U S of fucken A, which i'm almost as opposed to as china)
dovo knife (germania)
gerber knife (also US, but now, i believe, made in china)
m' nokia (korea??)


what the fuck is wrong with industry in nz, why the fuck are we importing all this SHIT that will end up in our fucking landfills, or be sold back to them to recycle and sell back to us again. stupid fucking stupid fuckers.

Because everyone wants to live a high standard of life but the upshot of that means our goods and services are too expensive for us to consume!

Unions? While they have a validity initially ... there is only so much blood you can squeeze out of a stone before the stone colapses!

As for China ... Japan was in the same position pre WW2 ... Chinese quality will improve just as Japan's and Korea's did.

Every market produces quality and crap ... Caveat emptor ... let the buyer beware ... or personal responsibility! (considered rare behaviour in NZ)