Where to buy shit that ISN'T made in China.

**SMOKEU** · 9th February 2014, 16:35

Originally Posted by Akzle

while i accept that paying people a "reasonable" amount is one of the largest "expenses" of a business, i'd say the tax at every step of the way, the insurance, re-insurance (every step of the way) and all the other bullshit that goes with the fucked up capitalist way, is a far higher cost...

Fucking Jews!

Originally Posted by Tazz

not to mention you have to pay more for everything as a business.

What about trade discount and not having to pay GST on business items?

**Voltaire** · 10th February 2014, 07:03

I remember the tail end with wage freezes, useless slipothene retread tyres , Lincoln Turner screwdrivers made of crapite, having to get Postal Notes from the Post Office to buy bits for my VW as the importer wanted to live like a King off the punter, Keith Holyoak and all the cronies with import licences. Thats where your "old Money' coined it.
Its never been better than now.
If people don't want to buy Chinese stuff, you don't have to, just pay more.
Do you get Chinese Jews?

**Ocean1** · 10th February 2014, 09:27

Originally Posted by pritch

There was a post on KB from someone who had worked in China and said what you really need to know is if the client company actually had quality control staff on the end of the production line. Unfortunately that info is not available.

There's a particular model lathe available here through several outlets, some of them were indeed made to a certain client's spec' and QA on these was in factory. Some of them, (apparently from the same factory) either didn't meet spec' or were made alongside those that were going through the QA system. So you're right, you can't actually tell unless the product's traceable through standards compliance you're personally familliar with.

A mate's brand new lathe had half a cupfull of sand in the apron feed gearbox, it'd obviously never been cleaned or inspected anywhere from the foundry to the paint shop.

**Ocean1** · 10th February 2014, 09:31

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

What about trade discount and not having to pay GST on business items?

Only the really big businesses get serious discounts. A bottle of argon cost me $395 a bottle, same bottle for one of the big fabricators in NZ is $60. I don't deal with that company any more.

And GST is a consiumption tax, the end user pays, producers claim it back.

**Maha** · 10th February 2014, 10:13

''Where to buy shit that ISN'T made in China''? North Korea?

**gammaguy** · 16th February 2014, 22:31

Originally Posted by Akzle

back the fuken truck up.
Who in their right mind would buy a trumpy?

tough decision...is it a single A twin.....or a triple....

**jasonu** · 17th February 2014, 13:56

Originally Posted by pritch

A Gerber made in China should be OK, mine is. So is my USA made Gerber, :

You had me worried for a second. I had to check that my Glock survival knife is still made in Austria. (and it is)

**blue rider** · 17th February 2014, 21:24

food.....go to thy local market

furniture.....also markets

clothes ...there is a good range of nz made, some cheat i.e. designed in nz made in china, but still there are good Dressmakers and Tailors

shoes.....Mini Cooper, not cheap but nz made and good

and just to please my inner german....most tools made in germany and or europe are good, sorry nz

yes that shit all costs a bit more than made in china, but fact is we don't yet have the living condition like china. Maybe in a couple of years we to can have that pleasure. I myself have already found a groovy pad under a bridge and am happy to share with likeminded people.

**rustyrobot** · 17th February 2014, 22:05

Until we decide to live with less we're better off having all this shit made in China. Have you seen the state of pollution in China recently? The Unbreathable air? The harbours? The rivers? The local environment can't sustain that hard core race-to-the-bottom industrial manufacturing. Sure we all like to have boutique hand-made long lasting big-ticket items, but that's not the bulk of stuff sold in this country, or produced in China. Think about all that plastic shit that fills your kitchen cupboards, the thousands of tonnes of packaging and broken toys being buried in our landfill, and all the cheap crappy circuitry and electronics that are slowly creeping their way into everyday objects.

It's going to take a massive shift in our consuming habits before we are able to buy only NZ Made without turning our own country into a scorched wasteland.

**Akzle** · 18th February 2014, 05:35

Originally Posted by rustyrobot

Until we decide to live with less we're better off having all this shit made in China. Have you seen the state of pollution in China recently? The Unbreathable air? The harbours? The rivers? The local environment can't sustain that hard core race-to-the-bottom industrial manufacturing. Sure we all like to have boutique hand-made long lasting big-ticket items, but that's not the bulk of stuff sold in this country, or produced in China. Think about all that plastic shit that fills your kitchen cupboards, the thousands of tonnes of packaging and broken toys being buried in our landfill, and all the cheap crappy circuitry and electronics that are slowly creeping their way into everyday objects.

It's going to take a massive shift in our consuming habits before we are able to buy only NZ Made without turning our own country into a scorched wasteland.

i do, think about all that shit. I believe it was no less than ocean who suggested leaving packaging at the retailer. Fuken oats! But i try not to buy much of it anyway, certainly fuckall plastic.
As for not polluting our shit? Shipping aint exactly eco friendly. Rena anyone?

**Swoop** · 18th February 2014, 10:39

Originally Posted by jasonu

I had to check that my Glock survival knife is still made in Austria. (and it is)

I found it quite interesting on the Megafactories episode devoted to the Victorinox Swiss Army knife.
The head honcho of the place was referring to "imitations and copies" of their knives (he didn't comment on cheap chinese made crap though...). The genuine article has something that the rip-offs do not.
The sound it makes. Simple and clever.