Oh Bugger - Massive screw up here

[oldrider]

i try real hard mister. But it dont matter none what you say. Mum says im special

That's true .... cos I think your mum is special too .... it obviously runs in your family!

[jasonu]

There is a school of thought by some posters on this website that if you feel safe you are safe going fast. Maybe that driver had the same school of thought.

Maybe you should get fucked!!!

[Paul in NZ]

Meh.

Oh - I'd definately stop and watch that puppy cross the road... Greenpeaces nightmare...

[Milts]

Rail was good in the day. If you didn't have a deadline on the freight and didn't care if it was damaged too much. It still is quite effective today under the same guise.
Great thing about road transport is the service and reliability.
If you were to look at the stats you would see that there is in fact very few deaths or injury due to heavy transport. Although this doesn't mean it couldn't improve as we can well see from this incident.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/site-resourc...227-leaman.pdf

[Grubber]

There is a school of thought by some posters on this website that if you feel safe you are safe going fast. Maybe that driver had the same school of thought.

Fuck off back to where you came from you dick. This thread isn't for your amusement.

[Grubber]

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/site-resourc...227-leaman.pdf

That was a bit of interesting reading to be fair. took a while to decipher though.

[Milts]

That was a bit of interesting reading to be fair. took a while to decipher though.

Yeah tables and tables of stats are always a pain, especially in PDF. Interesting request though ay.

If you believe the government's new number of 'each death on the roads costs us $4.4 million', then rail freight looks cheaper and cheaper.

[oldrider]

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/site-resourc...227-leaman.pdf

A quick look at and speed read of that suggests to me that the stats are improving quite markedly lately, if so, very encouraging!

Did I get that right? Previously my impression was that it was the other way around! ... Just goes to show don't it!

PS: Rail is really only a "make work" methodology especially our little toy system it would need to begin all over again it's been superseded for a valid reason!

[Grubber]

Yeah tables and tables of stats are always a pain, especially in PDF. Interesting request though ay.

If you take the government's new number of 'each death on the roads costs us $4.4 million', then rail freight looks cheaper and cheaper.

Yea going from that angle it does.
Wonder if anyone else ever thought of it that way!
Have to say though, that does sound excessively high don't ya reckon. Not sure how they may have analysed that.
Would hate to think what all road stats cost us.

[Grubber]

I'm not 100% sure but i am fairly sure trucks still have the lowest death rate per capita of all vehicles.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There is a school of thought by some posters on this website that if you feel safe you are safe going fast. Maybe that driver had the same school of thought.

Fuck you're a flea.

[Milts]

Yea going from that angle it does.
Wonder if anyone else ever thought of it that way!
Have to say though, that does sound excessively high don't ya reckon. Not sure how they may have analysed that.
Would hate to think what all road stats cost us.

I'm not 100% sure but i am fairly sure trucks still have the lowest death rate per capita of all vehicles.

Yes I also suspect that number is excessively high and factors in things that it shouldn't. Heavy trucks have an extremely low crash rate per kilometer traveled - it's bloody impressive when you think about it (I guess it somewhat shows the difference being a 'professional' driver makes)....

Even so, they clock up so many kilometers that there are still plenty of crashes, and obviously they tend to be pretty bad crashes just due to the nature of trucks. Pulling out in front of an 18 wheeler is much more likely to be fatal than pulling out in front of a hatchback. I do think that much of the opposition to rail freight ignores a huge amount of externalities like these.

[Robbo]

Update on this tragic truck crash here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9591...in-fiery-crash

It appears the truck at the rear may have been at fault. The haulage company transporting the marine hulls did have pilots at front and rear and was correctly lit up. This is one instance where tragically Speed Kills.

[Trade_nancy]

Update on this tragic truck crash here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9591...in-fiery-crash

It appears the truck at the rear may have been at fault. The haulage company transporting the marine hulls did have pilots at front and rear and was correctly lit up. This is one instance where tragically Speed Kills.

What speed killed? 100? 90? Was the truck doing more than the posted limit? Come on...the death was the result of someone not paying attention and/or knowing what the hell was happening ahead of them and a company putting an enormous slow moving hulk onto SH1 in darkness....with light bulbs blinking...in the hope that every other motorist will be alert and wait in a line.
Darkness kills.

[Robbo]

What speed killed? 100? 90? Was the truck doing more than the posted limit? Come on...the death was the result of someone not paying attention and/or knowing what the hell was happening ahead of them and a company putting an enormous slow moving hulk onto SH1 in darkness....with light bulbs blinking...in the hope that every other motorist will be alert and wait in a line.
Darkness kills.

Did you not read the news link?? The wide load was covered by a pilot at the front and rear. Then there was the Big Chill truck followed by the car and then the vege truck that run up the back of the car causing the crash. This has nothing to do with the 100km/h legal speed limit on the road as this is about him traveling at a speed where he could not stop within his visual distance. Therefore he was speeding.