Prime Minister Dotcom?

[mashman]

If you genuinely thought someone else could do a better job then you would vote for the someone else right?

Or not vote at all. Do you feel that you absolutely have to use your vote at every election irrespective of whether you believe in the party policy or not? Just curious like.

[Banditbandit]

So you would have to say they got what they asked for.
If you genuinely thought someone else could do a better job then you would vote for the someone else right? Or were you only talking about retarded people?

Don,t get me wrong, I am not saying Key is the best leader we could have.
But the alternatives are not better IMO.

No, I'm suggesting that voting for many many people is an emotional thing, not a rational thing - some people vote for the people who they think will do the best job, some people vote because of some sort of attachment to a political philosophy - a dogma - and others vote for the people the "like" ... were "like" is a purely subjective often emotive reaction ...

I do not believe that John Key is the best leader we could have .. I might agree that he is the best of a bad bunch who have put their name forward (but "might" is very unlikely to turn into "is" ...) - I refuse to vote for such a wide boy trader - everything is for sale for a price ... and consequently we have no integrity in our Government ... I refuse to agree that a person whose total being is for sale is the best leader we could have ...

[Scuba_Steve]

A. Really? Name one.
B. you really think he got voted in for his smile?

A. Look at the next party list, if they're not in a major party they could probably do a better job... then there's the still to be formed KB party & me
B. na he got voted cause people hated him less than labours leader simple as that

[Laava]

Or not vote at all. Do you feel that you absolutely have to use your vote at every election irrespective of whether you believe in the party policy or not? Just curious like.

Oh yeah, that is fair enough but I believe if you don,t vote in this democracy we live in then you have no right to complain either.

[Laava]

A. Look at the next party list, if they're not in a major party they could probably do a better job... then there's the still to be formed KB party & me
B. na he got voted cause people hated him less than labours leader simple as that

I might vote for the KB party and you will make a good politician as you avoided answering my first question entirely!

[Akzle]

Oh yeah, that is fair enough but I believe if you don,t vote in this democracy we live in then you have no right to complain either.

exactly the opposite.
voting implies some kind of consent. it implies that you want other people to make your decisions for you. i dont.
if you participate in the system, you cant bitch about it, because you supported it (whether or not 'your team' won) you must accept that the system is right and fair and basically suck a big jew cock.

and that leaves me with full complaining rights. because your system is fucked and i want nothing to do with it.

[avgas]

Oh yeah, that is fair enough but I believe if you don,t vote in this democracy we live in then you have no right to complain either.

Using that note then if you voted for a political party and they wronged you......you should just shut up and smile, because you voted for them.

Or it's not a black and white as that is it?
At what point did you vote for someone, and at what point did they lie to you? It is your own personal preference on where you draw that line. Some people draw that line if they are unhappy with the selection/process to begin with.

Think of other voting mechanisms..........they usually have a "for" and a "against". Except when it comes to politics.........have you ever wondered why?

[BoristheBiter]

Using that note then if you voted for a political party and they wronged you......you should just shut up and smile, because you voted for them.

Or it's not a black and white as that is it?
At what point did you vote for someone, and at what point did they lie to you? It is your own personal preference on where you draw that line. Some people draw that line if they are unhappy with the selection/process to begin with.

Think of other voting mechanisms..........they usually have a "for" and a "against". Except when it comes to politics.........have you ever wondered why?

Yep pretty much, and next time you can vote them out.

Funny how that works.

[BoristheBiter]

exactly the opposite.
voting implies some kind of consent. it implies that you want other people to make your decisions for you. i dont.
if you participate in the system, you cant bitch about it, because you supported it (whether or not 'your team' won) you must accept that the system is right and fair and basically suck a big jew cock.

and that leaves me with full complaining rights. because your system is fucked and i want nothing to do with it.

And you would know all there is to know about sucking cock.

[Akzle]

Yep pretty much, and next time you can vote them out.

Funny how that works.

and nothing is accomplished. sounds like a superling waste of time.

"that works"

And you would know all there is to know about sucking cock.

no. i don't know why you'd even say that as a statement.
are you just not having a very good troll day?

[Laava]

Using that note then if you voted for a political party and they wronged you......you should just shut up and smile, because you voted for them.

Or it's not a black and white as that is it?
At what point did you vote for someone, and at what point did they lie to you? It is your own personal preference on where you draw that line. Some people draw that line if they are unhappy with the selection/process to begin with.

Think of other voting mechanisms..........they usually have a "for" and a "against". Except when it comes to politics.........have you ever wondered why?

So you are starting to get it. If they wronged you, which they will of course, you exercise your right to vote for someone else. If there is someone else that suits you better.
Of course axle is onto it, if you don,t vote you can just...er...um.... What was his point again?

Thinking of other voting mechanisms. For and against is for propositions only not for voting in a person or party. Come on for fucks sake, this is self evident.

[Laava]

exactly the opposite.
voting implies some kind of consent. it implies that you want other people to make your decisions for you. i dont.
if you participate in the system, you cant bitch about it, because you supported it (whether or not 'your team' won) you must accept that the system is right and fair and basically suck a big jew cock.

and that leaves me with full complaining rights. because your system is fucked and i want nothing to do with it.

Exactly the opposite. Not voting means you give your consent to anybody.

[mashman]

Oh yeah, that is fair enough but I believe if you don,t vote in this democracy we live in then you have no right to complain either.

The ONLY thing I'm doing differently is not ticking a box. It is a conscious decision not to vote given the options that the party's on the ballot paper offer. In fact it's the only decision I can come to. Why should I not have the right to complain? You're ticking a box, nothing else.

[Akzle]

Exactly the opposite. Not voting means you give your consent to anybody.

how the hell do you reckon that?

Im saying, here and now, and all the time, i dont consent.

[oldrider]

I do not believe that John Key is the best leader we could have .. I might agree that he is the best of a bad bunch who have put their name forward (but "might" is very unlikely to turn into "is" ...) - I refuse to vote for such a wide boy trader - everything is for sale for a price ... and consequently we have no integrity in our Government ... I refuse to agree that a person whose total being is for sale is the best leader we could have ...

You didn't vote John Key in as prime minister! (You may have voted for him in his constituency I.E. his seat!)

In NZ we the taxpayers or the electorate do not vote our "leaders" in to power ... that is done by or through the party caucus members!

There has never been a NZ "leader" (prime minister) that was voted in by any electorate! ... "EVER"! (Definitely not in my lifetime anyway!)