Prime Minister Dotcom?

[bogan]

I'm not disregarding it. Fuck knows why you would come to that conclusion given that I've answered the questions you've asked etc... There's just no pleasing some people.

Because you keep ignoring it an going around in circles, when I say you need to provide more evidence; if you were actually taking my point on board that wouldn't lead to "aw c'mon just give it a try" and then much warbling about how good it is but still not backed by any evidence.

[mashman]

Because you keep ignoring it an going around in circles, when I say you need to provide more evidence; if you were actually taking my point on board that wouldn't lead to "aw c'mon just give it a try" and then much warbling about how good it is but still not backed by any evidence.

No. I give you answers that you don't consider to be viable, it's you that classes them as me going around in circles. Furthermore, you're not using evidence either. If neither of us have a crystal ball, then there are no guarantees... pot kettle black? And given the evidence that the financial marketeers have, surely you would think that they could avoid recession, pay people more, get rid of poverty, provide free healthcare, provide free education and generally sort their shit out... after all, the major problems are due to a lack of money, just about the only infinite thing on the planet. Yet they don't.

What am I doing that is so different to the way that things are currently done? At its highest level, all NOW is doing is removing the physical financial system and virtualising it. Everything else that ya'll keep coming up with based on a hypothetical change. Hardly surprising that my answers are hypothetical. I'd say cut me some slack given the above, but why would you? Is your hypothesis so much more accurate than mine? I'm gonna say no and you're gonna call that denial... lose lose. Fortunately I know better

[BoristheBiter]

There's just no pleasing some people.

And that there is why you guys will carry on going around in circles.





Oh fuck what have I done?

[mashman]

And that there is why you guys will carry on going around in circles.





Oh fuck what have I done?

bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa... oh my, you tickled my funny bone

[Akzle]

heheh. found this:
http://freedomfromgovernment.us/how-...n-2-sentences/

to anyone who needs to be told "fuck you" : Fuck You.

[mashman]

heheh. found this:
http://freedomfromgovernment.us/how-...n-2-sentences/

to anyone who needs to be told "fuck you" : Fuck You.

I got to paragraph 3 and let loose the laughter of which they go on to talk about a bit prematurely when I read "Now, please stretch your imagination". Given the debate of the last few days/years, and given the lack of imagination on display, I doubt anyone will read it. Why bother to educate oneself when one knows everything already eh. Like knowledge is enough...

Anyways, I can't state such a thing without evidence, coz peeps will get all defensive. So, some smart dude said “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”. That smart dude was Einstein.

Some other smart dude said "You're framing your thoughts by what already is".

Given the words of them thar smart dudes, there's enough evidence there to prove that there is a distinct lack of imagination among the knockers.

Of course I'll read it as I have an imagination and seek further education. Thanks for the link, looks interesting

[Akzle]

I doubt anyone will read it. Why bother to educate oneself when one knows everything already eh.

jeesus, i didn't realise how f@cking long it is. sorry. (the salient points are in bold, and have pictures )

i'm also debugging article 6 of the UN human rights thing. and kiwisfirst.co.nz
ahhhh. internets.

[mashman]

jeesus, i didn't realise how f@cking long it is. sorry. (the salient points are in bold, and have pictures )

i'm also debugging article 6 of the UN human rights thing. and kiwisfirst.co.nz
ahhhh. internets.

... As an almost free man, I only have to read as much of it as I want innit. But your apology was sweet.

heh... I'm currently wading through 13 hours of vid explaining how the law is a lie because of the misuse of language. Works well with your doc, but the vidz has lotz of scripturz in them to aid explanation and make some form of sense. Have fun dear.

[Akzle]

heh... I'm currently wading through 13 hours of vid

ode to bandwidth.

1gb a month.

[mashman]

ode to bandwidth.

1gb a month.

You poor thing. You should vote for KDC, he can help you

[bogan]

No. I give you answers that you don't consider to be viable, it's you that classes them as me going around in circles.

Well how else would you class giving me the same half assed "i dunno" answer? certainly isn't moving forward.

You realise NOW is not the only alternative to the current system, if change were ever desired, you'd still have to put your one ahead of the others, and that would take evidence. I do have evidence that the financial system results in viable employments number and technological progress; it's called taking off you blinkers.

[bogan]

woops, wrong thread

[scumdog]

This thread is sorta like retards vs drongos...



I love it, it's kinda like a modern Christians Vs lions...without the blood or pain to the lions!

[mashman]

Well how else would you class giving me the same half assed "i dunno" answer? certainly isn't moving forward.

You realise NOW is not the only alternative to the current system, if change were ever desired, you'd still have to put your one ahead of the others, and that would take evidence. I do have evidence that the financial system results in viable employments number and technological progress; it's called taking off you blinkers.

You get I dunno when you don't accept what I have already offered. You accept neither the idea nor the impossible to predict . It's a HUGE subject that has been simplified for the purposes of debate and that debate is a 2 way street... or is supposed to be.

Removal of the financial system will have better outcomes for many issues that suffer at the hands of budget constraint. That's a fact.
The way NOW is removing the financial system does not mean that things have to change, but that's up to the people. That's a fact.
The people need to be asked and to vote on it. That's a fact.
IF people agree to carry on exactly the way they currently are i.e. working habits, spending habits, contribution and they fulfill that "promise", then NOW will work. That's a fact.
NOW makes provision for lots of people who lie. IF too many people lie and we hit a certain threshold that is predetermined by the "experts", then we will have to revert to the financial system. Again, fact.

Everything else (give or take) is a black box and is going to be the how/procedural/logistics etc... The financial system and all of its data can't predict the future and they have infinite resources and research. So essentially, it's a black box too. Both black boxes require a leap of imagination, faith, confidence, buy in, whatever you want to call it. At that point in time, that's all up to us as individuals to take it as we will.

Of course I realise NOW isn't the only alternative. Social Credit, LVT, Unconditional Basic Income, Debt Jubilee, an internal currency, communism (snigger), financial transaction tax, The Venus Project, Zeitgeist Movement, the Ubuntu movement, Occupy, Wave of Action etc... there are huge numbers of alternatives. Some using a financial system, some not. As for putting NOW ahead of any of them, why would I? Yes if I had to directly compete, but I'd much rather cooperate.

@blinkers... I don't class a system that has 55% of the population claiming benefits as viable, especially when you consider that that technological advancement you talk of has replaced jobs as it has spurred ahead. Has your evidence factored that in? Coz it don't look like it. Talk about gaps. In fact I read an article, wait, I'll go find it and you can read it yourself.. Stop being silly.

[mashman]

This thread is sorta like retards vs drongos...



I love it, it's kinda like a modern Christians Vs lions...without the blood or pain to the lions!

Cops will have less work to do as financially related crime won't exist... which means more hours riding motorcycles, or scoping out the next car, or fushun etc... It'll be like high noon at the donut shop.