Track day crashes!

[Grubber]

Does the muppet that caused this pay for the damage as it was so clearly his fault?

Morally speaking one would think he should, but it is on the track and it probably doesn't count for much really.
Was really a stupid thing to be doing to be honest. Looks just as bad on video as it did when i saw the bikes being stretchered in.
Could have been very nasty.

To be fair on track days, that would have to be the worst thing i have seen since i have done them and i have been to a good number.
Others have out riden themselves and come off but that's about it in most cases.

[p.dath]

There are always going to be "accidents" on the track (ditto any other location you care to mention). Everyone going onto the track understands the risks. It's pretty shit when you get taken out for no apparent fault of your own - but that is the risk you run when you go onto your track, and ultimately you have to accept those risks (remember that bit of paper you have to sign?).

[rapid van cleef]

There are always going to be "accidents" on the track (ditto any other location you care to mention). Everyone going onto the track understands the risks. It's pretty shit when you get taken out for no apparent fault of your own - but that is the risk you run when you go onto your track, and ultimately you have to accept those risks (remember that bit of paper you have to sign?).

Maybe if there is an absolute failing to adhere to the 'rules' on that specific day there could be cause or grounds for some sort of repercussions but proving it would be very difficult. Even at WSBK and Motogp levels some of the dudes have little regard for others safety at times and are prone to the odd brain fart now and again. I recall Keenan Soufoglu punching another rider whilst going down the back straight at Aragon during the race, it was clear for the world to see it was a blatant punch and potentailly VERY dangerous......what happened as a result.....I dont think it was very much if anything.(However these guys have a totally different skill set to most of us)

Down to good marshalling of events I suppose, without whom we would not have our jollies! We go to these things looking for some fun and accept the risks. But if your being a cock and are warned about it the organisers are within their rights to tell you to pack up.

[jasonu]

There are always going to be "accidents" on the track (ditto any other location you care to mention). Everyone going onto the track understands the risks. It's pretty shit when you get taken out for no apparent fault of your own - but that is the risk you run when you go onto your track, and ultimately you have to accept those risks (remember that bit of paper you have to sign?).

While that was an 'accident' it was caused by some pretty foolish behavior and was totally unnecessary. I am pretty sure the bit of paper riders signed would include something about following the rules and instructions of the officials.
There has to be a line drawn somewhere between shit happens and damage caused by irresponsible behavior. The video shows the guy did something he agreed not to do and damage to others resulted. If one of the victims was killed wouldn't the cops use that footage to prosecute? Would the victims insurance carrier do the same thing and come after the rider for damages?
I hope like hell thus guy is black listed from all future track events.

[BigAl]

Farkin Hell, what was that guy thinking trying to undertake going over the hill.

Bloody lucky no one was injured as that wall is close and they were doing 200.

One of the reasons I like to keep my mirrors on on track days, at least I can see fast guys approaching and keep out their way.

[Mort]

Could have been very nasty and it was rider error but it can happen so easily. I've nearly been clipped in a similar way there (just millimeters from having my right bar end touched) and I've also been caught out by passing slower riders on the right and having them all too quickly move across and take the line, forcing me across the yellow and then back in front to avoid the pit wall (as happened here).

There is a factor that the circuit is basically unsafe at this point (probably due to the fact that the circuit was designed to go the other way round (yes, that is true). That pit entry was never designed as an entry....

Might be time to put a track day rule in place to allow passing at Turn 7 to happen only on the left. This will happen again I am sure...

[vinducati]

The rider is an idiot, I have seen someone killed on that spot.
He broke all the rules, 2 metres at all times while passing.
Also if you are going to pass someone there, you should have to pass on the outside.
I can tell you people think twice about that.
I will be contacting playday and wil not attend if that rider is allowed back ever.

[vinducati]

I received an email from Playday, the rider has been banned.
Good.

[kiwi cowboy]

My comment was based on the view of others that a mixture of bike sizes plus experience plus unlimited speeds was a recipe for disaster.
If you enjoy taking such risks you have no reason to complain about what happens. Dont worry I value my life a bit more than you so you will
never see me on any race track.

personaly I feel much safer in a race then a trackday then on the road in that order with the one exception of the clubmans class with the big speed differential and the muppets in it trying to be rossi makes it unsafe.
I feel comfortable with people that I have raced against before and know getting close but watch out if I haven't raced with them before until I see how they ride.

[p.dath]

...If one of the victims was killed wouldn't the cops use that footage to prosecute?...

Forget the Police. OSH would step in and that would probably be the end of track days ... okay maybe not, but it won't be good.

[quickbuck]

Got to ask...... Why was the rider in the first half of the video always closing the throttle through the corner?


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[jellywrestler]

probably due to the fact that the circuit was designed to go the other way round (yes, that is true).

another sucker...

[Mort]

another sucker...

Who to believe on this one... ? I spoke to the Guy who runs the circuit. Do you know better ?

[Brett]

this one?


more char

That fucker taking the inside line like that is pretty sketchy. I would be hell as pissed if that were me taken out. Stupid stupid stupid. Must have been a slowish group (only doing sub 200kph) so that type of riding in a slower group is so unacceptable it's not funny.

[SPP]

That fucker taking the inside line like that is pretty sketchy. I would be hell as pissed if that were me taken out. Stupid stupid stupid. Must have been a slowish group (only doing sub 200kph) so that type of riding in a slower group is so unacceptable it's not funny.

I'd be spewing.

Something made him pick up the bike when he did at risk of bowling the other guy, it wouldn't have been because he didn't see him. I'm going to assume it's because he thought there was a good chance of him clipping the pit wall at the end of the lines if he didn't. Doing it so as not to cross painted lines is just too fckin dumb. Roll it back though, it looked to me they were only in that position because he'd made up his mind that a pass was going to happen there no matter what... and it had cock up written on it from early on.

Grubbers first post said med-fast group. 200 clicks past that point would've been at the slow end for that group I imagine and probably lead to the decision to try and pass but it was never on; not on a trackday, not up the inside with fuck all room to play with, and not in that spot. Turn 1 is just up the road.