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    Thumbs up Future of 125s in NZ?

    Be interesting to hear the view of experienced racing types on the above subject.

    I am wanting to move my son onto the next stage in his racing, he runs consistently at the front on his RG150 in development class and has 3 years experience under his belt now.

    125's do seem to struggle for entries and I don't want to buy into the class if it has no future...I do however believe that it is one of the last pure race bike classes and makes for exciting racing.

    Pro-twins is another option, but that could happen anytime (you're not 55kg and 17 years old forever!)
    250 production frankly doesn't do it for me (or him), bit hard to get excited about a 250 ninja...

    All thoughts welcome...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigreddog View Post
    125's do seem to struggle for entries and I don't want to buy into the class if it has no future...I do however believe that it is one of the last pure race bike classes and makes for exciting racing.

    Pro-twins is another option, but that could happen anytime (you're not 55kg and 17 years old forever!)
    250 production frankly doesn't do it for me (or him), bit hard to get excited about a 250 ninja...

    All thoughts welcome...
    125 will most likely be gone the way of 250GP in the next few years, awesome bikes to ride though and it is as you say the last pure race bike class

    250 Proddy might not do it for you or him but it is a logical step although if you could get him a ride on a pro twin and see how he goes it might be worth considering

    You could do a father and son sidecar team
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigreddog View Post

    125's do seem to struggle for entries and I don't want to buy into the class if it has no future...
    It needs more people like you and your son to race and help ensure they will have a future

    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    125 will most likely be gone the way of 250GP in the next few years,
    Why does it seem a lot of people are so negative re the 125 class. I love everything about them. I also know someone who is/was looking at getting one and everybody he talked to tried to talk him out of it because it was a 'dying class'.
    If everyone does their best to discourage new riders then it defintly will die out


    Btw the way i am not an experienced race type, just a two stroke fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac3_snow View Post
    Why does it seem a lot of people are so negative re the 125 class. I love everything about them. I also know someone who is/was looking at getting one and everybody he talked to tried to talk him out of it because it was a 'dying class'.
    If everyone does their best to discourage new riders then it defintly will die out
    Realistic rather than negative, they no longer build any new 125 GP bikes and they're being replaced by four stroke classes, people prepared to learn how to run and maintain the 125GP are also getting thinner on the ground

    250 proddy are a lot less work and an easier class for most people even though they're not real race bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ac3_snow View Post
    It needs more people like you and your son to race and help ensure they will have a future



    Why does it seem a lot of people are so negative re the 125 class. I love everything about them. I also know someone who is/was looking at getting one and everybody he talked to tried to talk him out of it because it was a 'dying class'.
    If everyone does their best to discourage new riders then it defintly will die out


    Btw the way i am not an experienced race type, just a two stroke fan
    good comment, could'nt agree more.
    Thanks for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Realistic rather than negative, they no longer build any new 125 GP bikes and they're being replaced by four stroke classes, people prepared to learn how to run and maintain the 125GP are also getting thinner on the ground

    250 proddy are a lot less work and an easier class for most people even though they're not real race bikes
    good points,well made
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    125's aren't going to be dead in NZ next year or the year after. Give it death, and move on from there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    125 will most likely be gone the way of 250GP in the next few years, awesome bikes to ride though and it is as you say the last pure race bike class

    250 Proddy might not do it for you or him but it is a logical step although if you could get him a ride on a pro twin and see how he goes it might be worth considering

    You could do a father and son sidecar team
    he has ridden a pro twin a couple of times and enjoyed it, that I think would be our preferred option after the 125..
    not sure about the sidecar idea, mind you I love watching the chairs when there out there..
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdog View Post
    125's aren't going to be dead in NZ next year or the year after. Give it death, and move on from there!
    that's what I like to hear..
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    The class IS DYING sadly, and has been said already they do not build them any longer, but parts are still availlable, look at the 2 stroke forum on www.wera.com for example.

    Pro Twins would be my personell choice though, 4 strokes and heavier bikes are the future and now is the best time to start learning them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigreddog View Post
    that's what I like to hear..
    Weigh it up with the Pro Twin. Both excellent classes to really learn your race craft. Both a legitimate stepping stone to the Supersports and Superbikes.

    The proddy is going to be less maintenance intensive, but at 55kg which one is going to be more fun screaming round on?

    No contest really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    The class IS DYING sadly, and has been said already they do not build them any longer, but parts are still availlable, look at the 2 stroke forum on www.wera.com for example.

    Pro Twins would be my personell choice though, 4 strokes and heavier bikes are the future and now is the best time to start learning them.

    Spend your money on the future mate, not the past
    Yes Shaun, I know where you're coming from.
    Thanks for your comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdog View Post
    Weigh it up with the Pro Twin. Both excellent classes to really learn your race craft. Both a legitimate stepping stone to the Supersports and Superbikes.

    The proddy is going to be less maintenance intensive, but at 55kg which one is going to be more fun screaming round on?

    No contest really.
    Oh yes agreed,and it should be about fun,should'nt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Realistic rather than negative, they no longer build any new 125 GP bikes
    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    The class IS DYING sadly, and has been said already they do not build them any longer,
    Uh oh, u guys needa talk to the post classic club asap and let them know they stopped building pre 89 bikes 25 years ago!!


    Haha i know they arent built new any more but thats no reason to dismiss them so easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac3_snow View Post
    Uh oh, u guys needa talk to the post classic club asap and let them know they stopped building pre 89 bikes 25 years ago!!


    Haha i know they arent built new any more but thats no reason to dismiss them so easily.
    be such a shame if the 125's were allowed to die out here...
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