NZSBK Round 2 - dispute

[RobGassit]

i've asked for someone to point out for me where or how a close ratio box can be obtained for these bikes...still waiting.

There are performance gears available for these bikes.

[RobGassit]

[QUOTE=quickbuck;1130686103]Bugger... I sold off the road gear to pay for last season.... And all this talk of pulling the engine apart... As I have said, can't be bothered with that crap... Just want to turn up and race it pretty much how it finished

The beauty of the carbed 250 is that there are so many wrecked ones available, making the class so easy to race in. We ran a big end after the engine had run on it's side in a gravel trap. Price of a crank was enormous, so for $700 we got another engine from a wrecker and we were back in business. Obviously,,, if we had blueprinted it,, it may have been quicker,,but we were racing again for bugger all. I hope the class can run for a few years before the 300's take over, because at ten grand a pop, the class gets serious again. Maybe 250 Proddy is best served at club level, where entry level riders can race for fun at modest cost.

[slowpoke]

Yip,

I get what you mean,But if you allow machining,Then there will be those that have the ability to get the tolerances spot on,Thats fine in mopst other classes,But this is an entry level class whereby some of the competitors use their machines for daily transport and/or as newbies to the sport to not have the required knowledge or money to have such work done,Therefore it is no longer a level playing feild

Hmmm, isn't that one hell of an "interpretation" from our ex-commissioner? Seriously, how the fuck can it be called "entry level" when we have EJC Champion Jake Lewis racing in the class? Or hot shot's from Australia flown in to compete in an "entry level" class despite winning it the year before and competing at a far higher level in Australia? You are seriously taking the piss with that statement.

Note: I have no problem with anyone racing in the class, but nowhere in the rules is "entry level" stated. It's a National Championship after all, and nowhere is there an upper age or experience limit so in what way shape or form is this any different to any other NZSBK class? "Entry level" may be what was intended, but the reality is something far far different and I don't blame folks for taking it seriously with blueprinting and such like.

And MNZ specifically mentions machining in the form of gearbox undercutting, so MNZ are the ones who open the door of some having the wherewithal to perform machining and some not.

[Billy]

Hmmm, isn't that one hell of an "interpretation" from our ex-commissioner? Seriously, how the fuck can it be called "entry level" when we have EJC Champion Jake Lewis racing in the class? Or hot shot's from Australia flown in to compete in an "entry level" class despite winning it the year before and competing at a far higher level in Australia? You are seriously taking the piss with that statement.

Note: I have no problem with anyone racing in the class, but nowhere in the rules is "entry level" stated. It's a National Championship after all, and nowhere is there an upper age or experience limit so in what way shape or form is this any different to any other NZSBK class? "Entry level" may be what was intended, but the reality is something far far different and I don't blame folks for taking it seriously with blueprinting and such like.

And MNZ specifically mentions machining in the form of gearbox undercutting, so MNZ are the ones who open the door of some having the wherewithal to perform machining and some not.

The entry level was aimed at club level,Unless of course you expect us to have 2 seperate classes with 2 seperate sets of rules.

The gearbox undercutting was requested as a safety rulechange as the Ninja in particular has a habit of jumping out of gear(Typical Kawasaki gearbox) AND as mentioned earlier as the appendix states "If its not mentioned ,It must remain OEM" As the gearbox IS mentioned then it is allowed,Thought even you couldve worked that out,Opened the door....Where???? Oh yea I get it,Because we allow the machining of the gearbox in the interests of safety,It automatically means go ballistic aye....Now who's taking the piss???

So if the class is suddenly serious,The rules go out the door....Again,Now who's taking the piss???

I must admit,I'm really going to miss the expert opinion you once in a blue moon racers with mountains of expertise that know absolutely EVERYTHING offer.....NOT,Have a nice life Spud,Its been well worth my while putting in the hard yards so you can achieve your 3 meetings a year,MNZ would be crippled without peeps like you.

[gammaguy]

The entry level was aimed at club level,Unless of course you expect us to have 2 seperate classes with 2 seperate sets of rules.

The gearbox undercutting was requested as a safety rulechange as the Ninja in particular has a habit of jumping out of gear(Typical Kawasaki gearbox) AND as mentioned earlier as the appendix states "If its not mentioned ,It must remain OEM" As the gearbox IS mentioned then it is allowed,Thought even you couldve worked that out,Opened the door....Where???? Oh yea I get it,Because we allow the machining of the gearbox in the interests of safety,It automatically means go ballistic aye....Now who's taking the piss???

So if the class is suddenly serious,The rules go out the door....Again,Now who's taking the piss???

I must admit,I'm really going to miss the expert opinion you once in a blue moon racers with mountains of expertise that know absolutely EVERYTHING offer.....NOT,Have a nice life Spud,Its been well worth my while putting in the hard yards so you can achieve your 3 meetings a year,MNZ would be crippled without peeps like you.

Yup........I'm pretty sure I felt a lot like that when I gave up organising race meetings and putting up with all the crap that goes with it


Being surrounded with opinions shaped like assholes sure wears a man down,you have my sympathies Billy

[suzuki21]

I must admit,I'm really going to miss the expert opinion you once in a blue moon racers with mountains of expertise that know absolutely EVERYTHING offer.....NOT,Have a nice life Spud,Its been well worth my while putting in the hard yards so you can achieve your 3 meetings a year,MNZ would be crippled without peeps like you.

I miss your candidness Billy. I am sending some bricks up to you so you can build a little wall so you can continue banging your head on something.

[suzuki21]

Hmmm, isn't that one hell of an "interpretation" from our ex-commissioner? Seriously, how the fuck can it be called "entry level" when we have EJC Champion Jake Lewis racing in the class? Or hot shot's from Australia flown in to compete in an "entry level" class despite winning it the year before and competing at a far higher level in Australia? You are seriously taking the piss with that statement.

Superbike was an entry level class in New Zealand for Aussies Robbie Bugden, Daniel Stauffer, Damian Cudlin, and Phill & Sophie Lovett. They should fuck of too?
We need to ban talented people from sports, its not fair. Bring back Helen.

[Billy]

Yup........I'm pretty sure I felt a lot like that when I gave up organising race meetings and putting up with all the crap that goes with it


Being surrounded with opinions shaped like assholes sure wears a man down,you have my sympathies Billy

I miss your candidness Billy. I am sending some bricks up to you so you can build a little wall so you can continue banging your head on something.

Yip,

While all of the above is true and the job has its "moments" for sure,Amazingly none of those are the reason I have made myself unavailable for reappointment,In fact it has nothing to do with motorcycling

[jellywrestler]

,We are presently seeking info unavailable from KHI from the manufaturers in Thailand through an Australian agent

won't be hard to find, will be on the shelf next to the Wire wheeler parts book...

[Billy]

won't be hard to find, will be on the shelf next to the Wire wheeler parts book...

Nope,

Thats in Wanganui on top of the "Black pipe" file in archive

[Shaun Harris]

Nope,

Thats in Wanganui on top of the "Black pipe" file in archive

but but but that model did have awsome cam shafts. Funny how Holdens and toomey bikes sounded so different to other Suzuki bikes- Even though they were awsome riders

Toomey was the best technician as a rider I have ever seen

[Billy]

but but but that model did have awsome cam shafts. Funny how Holdens and toomey bikes sounded so different to other Suzuki bikes- Even though they were awsome riders

Toomey was the best technician as a rider I have ever seen

I know they had awesome camshafts,I could tell you where those camshafts were fitted and that they also never even took the bikes out of the crate so the people in the said warehouse saw the bikes arrive the next day and unpacked them without realising what had gone on hahahahaha,Good old proddy racing.....Lets NOT go there again please

[Crasherfromwayback]

but but but that model did have awsome cam shafts. Funny how Holdens and toomey bikes sounded so different to other Suzuki bikes- Even though they were awsome riders

Toomey was the best technician as a rider I have ever seen

Lol. And the hotrod RGV's I used to race against went *pop* when changing gear...earlier and soooner than stockers (cr gearbox anyone?)etc etc. And so it went. But one thing has remained true...fast bikes or not...the best riders still won. Always will.

[Billy]

Lol. And the hotrod RGV's I used to race against went *pop* when changing gear...earlier and soooner than stockers (cr gearbox anyone?)etc etc. And so it went. But one thing has remained true...fast bikes or not...the best riders still won. Always will.

Hahahahaha,Pot,Kettle black anybody KR1s P indeed....You forgot to mention the 23d10 igniter,F3 headgaskets,Ohlins shock(With a black spring),Gutted pipes and bored carbs.LOL

Like I said,Lets not go back there

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hahahahaha,Pot,Kettle black anybody KR1s P indeed....You forgot to mention the 23d10 igniter,F3 headgaskets,Ohlins shock(With a black spring),Gutted pipes and bored carbs.LOL

Like I said,Lets not go back there

Lol. Mate...one thing I've never done is hide what was going on with my KR1SP. Not once! But no, no gutted pipes, special head gskts or shock I can assure you. Gentleman Jim saw mine in it's entiriety. Hey I see on FB you were in Welly recently...always a spare room for ya in my aprtment if you ever need it and want to tell tall stories of years gone by! I'm always up for it. And regarding proddie racing...I reckon the only way it's ever gonna be straight forward is when you have a pool of bikes and draw number from a hat. Pity rr in NZ ain't big enough to support such a thing.