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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Two diff models though. I'd rather have the blue version with the clock in the dash...
    I'd say 25k in US money is a fair asking price for the blue one. Try and find another. He'll probably get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylo View Post
    I'd say 25k in US money is a fair asking price for the blue one. Try and find another. He'll probably get that.
    Another one will come along. That's the main diff between Ebay and Trademe. Only 8 hours to go and no bids yet...I'm thinking he won't get it. That's Z1RTC money, and there were only 500 or so of those ever built. Even then, super low mile versions of those still pop up from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylo View Post
    I've been offered 'very' slightly north of 20k recently for a zero hour CR500 I have in my shed, go figure.

    A fool and his money ...
    I'd tell the man he owns it if it was mine. Hell, I'd prob be tempted to part with my SR500 for that sort of coin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Two diff models though. I'd rather have the blue version with the clock in the dash...
    79 SN & 80 ST

    That's the Twowheels Feb 80 test of the 79 model (actually Neil Chivas's production race bike)
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    Hmm circa 58kw= 78 on chassis dyno say 70 at the rear. Always figured that was about what my 11 put out (via shafty rather than more efficient chain)
    How far we've come. That's SV650 power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Hmm circa 58kw= 78 on chassis dyno say 70 at the rear. Always figured that was about what my 11 put out (via shafty rather than more efficient chain)
    How far we've come. That's SV650 power.
    That's Harley power ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Hmm circa 58kw= 78 on chassis dyno say 70 at the rear. Always figured that was about what my 11 put out (via shafty rather than more efficient chain)
    How far we've come. That's SV650 power.
    That's 57.1kw max rwp which isn't that far behind the GSX11 measured at 65.5 rwp and they were 120hp at the crank. A back to back tug of war between a SV & the GS I know which one would submit in defeat.
    The test is an interesting read though, they make plenty of comparisons to the other current jappers and continually do head to head against the Laverda Jota and it set a whole new standard for it's fellow countrymen to follow and did everything as well as the european stuff did for a fraction of the price.
    That Red one in Welly could be legit but the paint job isn't that great for a refurb and it's easy to give an E a dulux overhaul to make it look like an S
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    That's Harley power ....
    A 1340 Evo used to put out 53 on a real dyno. Not sure if they've progressed past 70 but you'd think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    That's 57.1kw max rwp which isn't that far behind the GSX11 measured at 65.5 rwp and they were 120hp at the crank. A back to back tug of war between a SV & the GS I know which one would submit in defeat. . .

    Well that's an interesting thought experiment, if a whole bunch not real world. Let's consider that you'd keep abusing the clutch and raising the revs as the other person started to get the better. So the low down power would become a little irrelevant. The GS has weight on its side. . . but as this escalating power struggle continues, eventually one of you is going to lose traction.
    Assuming the rope is high enough that you don't wheelie it if you sit back. Is it going to be the modern 160 rear tyre that wins the day, or the 120 ME99 that spins up first?
    I might put money on the SV.
    But I'd far rather take the GS home any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    That's 57.1kw max rwp which isn't that far behind the GSX11 measured at 65.5 rwp and they were 120hp at the crank.
    wait, whut?

    so just under HALF of the engine output is lost in the clutch, gearbox, chain and wheel and interface with the dyno.?

    Nope.

    They might have been 120 at the brochure.

    Just think about it: 1100cc air cooled, 4 valve heads, 10000 or so rpm before it goes bang. State of the art thirty years ago. Think about a BMW S10000RR motor with titanium rods and valves, 14000 rpm redline, watercooled blah de blah. The streetbike version puts out 180hp or so at the wheel: by your logic it should be 300 plus at the crank, which ain't happening.

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/f...rr-dyno-curve/

    here is an interesting article on drivetrain loss

    http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...in-power-loss/
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Well that's an interesting thought experiment, if a whole bunch not real world. Let's consider that you'd keep abusing the clutch and raising the revs as the other person started to get the better. So the low down power would become a little irrelevant. The GS has weight on its side. . . but as this escalating power struggle continues, eventually one of you is going to lose traction.
    Assuming the rope is high enough that you don't wheelie it if you sit back. Is it going to be the modern 160 rear tyre that wins the day, or the 120 ME99 that spins up first?
    I might put money on the SV.
    But I'd far rather take the GS home any day.
    Just a theoretical comparison, though the GS would do it more consistently for longer
    Though I have seen 1st hand a spectacularly fried GS1000e clutch pack fused together from a massive launch off the lights

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    wait, whut?

    so just under HALF of the engine output is lost in the clutch, gearbox, chain and wheel and interface with the dyno.?

    Nope.

    They might have been 120 at the brochure.

    Just think about it: 1100cc air cooled, 4 valve heads, 10000 or so rpm before it goes bang. State of the art thirty years ago. Think about a BMW S10000RR motor with titanium rods and valves, 14000 rpm redline, watercooled blah de blah. The streetbike version puts out 180hp or so at the wheel: by your logic it should be 300 plus at the crank, which ain't happening.

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/f...rr-dyno-curve/

    here is an interesting article on drivetrain loss

    http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...in-power-loss/
    mmm? read it again first...the specs from the test document is measuring the power in Kw and what I referred to crank power for the GSX was HP...pretty big difference
    remember 1HP = .7457Kw and 1Kw = 1.34102Hp

    So for the GSX's 120hp equals 89.484Kw.............65.5Kw = 87.83681Hp
    And if my memory serves me right the GS was 98Hp so
    98Hp = 73.0786Kw............57.1Kw = 76.572242Hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    I dunno. I reckon it's worth twice that, as it'll sound like a Harley with those HD muffers he's got! Fuggin choice one!

    Aside from how fucking queer this bike is, check the qual of some of this peanuts pics.

    https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=1403641180
    Embarrassing at best.
    What a cunt!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    I'd tell the man he owns it if it was mine. Hell, I'd prob be tempted to part with my SR500 for that sort of coin...
    I guess it comes down to desirability coupled with disposable income and rarity. I don't do SR500's much but I'd love a mint XT or TT500. If either one of those three was a zero hour bike like mine for sale I'd expect the asking price to reflect the chance of finding another. Which would be pretty much nil.

    Don't want to pay the money ? See you later then, someone else, somewhere, will pay the money and buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Embarrassing at best.
    What a cunt!!!
    Not, he's not a cunt at all. Just someone asking too much for a bike that he doesn't want any more because it's totally impractical. And looks silly.

    And he spent a lot of money making it that way ...

    And his choice of bikes are as bad as his photography skills..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylo View Post
    I guess it comes down to desirability coupled with disposable income and rarity. I don't do SR500's much but I'd love a mint XT or TT500. .
    I wouldn't pay any cunt anywhere near 20k for a Yamaha SR500 even if it was brand spanking new. I was referring to my Kawasaki SR500. Which if I may be so rude as to point out, is prob more sought after than a CR500.

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