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[T.W.R]

BMW already had their ISDE bikes and own cross country bikes well before he built that and that's what their GS was based on

The early ISDT bikes weren't official BMW team bikes the only put an official team up in 1979 with a precursor R80GS which was built after Walrof's bike and have a look at the 1980 BMW team ISDT winning bike styling look familiar mmm?



Early ISDT privateer beemers if anything have more resemblance to an R80ST if anything and they were used as the basis of the original R80GS

[Crasherfromwayback]

The early ISDT bikes weren't official BMW team bikes the only put an official team up in 1979 with a precursor R80GS which was built after Walrof's bike and have a look at the 1980 BMW team ISDT winning bike styling look familiar mmm?



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Fancy that? Engine and frame lifted up to increase ground clearance!

[T.W.R]

Fancy that? Engine and frame lifted up to increase ground clearance!

Almost a clone of Walrof's bike though

[Crasherfromwayback]

Almost a clone of Walrof's bike though

Here's an idea...

[T.W.R]

Here's an idea...

Channeling Ivan Miller huh? I remember going to an invitational meeting at Woodford Glen and seeing the old RMs get made to look totally stupid trying to chase Iki Watanabe on the pre release Full Floater version, Miller & the Colemans were doing the Suzuki roadshow; was a good day though spent it with the Malaysian GP team & John Woodley

[Crasherfromwayback]

Channeling Ivan Miller huh? I remember going to an invitational meeting at Woodford Glen and seeing the old RMs get made to look totally stupid trying to chase Iki Watanabe on the pre release Full Floater version, Miller & the Colemans were doing the Suzuki roadshow; was a good day though spent it with the Malaysian GP team & John Woodley

Nice one! Yep, I've had a 400C as a kid, but lusted after the N's and T's, and have since had three N's an a T. Great race bikes for VMX duty.

[F5 Dave]

Hardley Shitterson of course.

Well I was kinda going for that with my tractor gearbox quip, but Pete didn't bite on that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well I was kinda going for that with my tractor gearbox quip, but Pete didn't bite on that.

Hahahaha. Yep. Their gear boxes are def pretty Massey Ferguson like. But apart from the old four speed Sporty boxes, are pretty unbreakable at least. Long throw much?

[sidecar bob]

Fancy that? Engine and frame lifted up to increase ground clearance!

I classic raced a 90/6 in virtually standard trim, I beat the ones with raised engines, and by quite some margin, and a heap of other bikes & never touched my cylinders down.
You would be surprised how hard you have to go to do that. I'd say on the later mono r100rs it's virtually impossible without crashing first. I've done near 100,000km on one of those. As for the r1200gs, hitting the engine down is as likely as hitting the handlebar down.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I classic raced a 90/6 in virtually standard trim, I beat the ones with raised engines, and by quite some margin, and a heap of other bikes & never touched my cylinders down.

That doesn't say a lot sorry.

[sidecar bob]

That doesn't say a lot sorry.

Really, I'm not sure why you would say that, when I never saw you beating me or at any meetings. You have absolutely no idea how I ride.
Your comment doesn't exempt you from talking out your arse on this paticular occasion.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Really, I'm not sure why you would say that, when I never saw you beating me or at any meetings. You have absolutely no idea how I ride.
Your comment doesn't exempt you from talking out your arse on this paticular occasion.

You having your man time of the month? The fact you beat up on other boxers could well mean you're way better a rider than them, and the reason for not scaring may well mean you're way smoother than them. But we don't know, so your point was a bit moot either way. But carry one getting your panties hitched. But I have a feeling that the real reason we've never raced each other, is I was not that interested in parading around on old oil leakers.

[sidecar bob]

You having your man time of the month? The fact you beat up on other boxers could well mean you're way better a rider than them, and the reason for not scaring may well mean you're way smoother than them. But we don't know, so your point was a bit moot either way. But carry one getting your panties hitched. But I have a feeling that the real reason we've never raced each other, is I was not that interested in parading around on old oil leakers.

I beat bonnevilles, guzzi's manx's tridents, in fact the entire pre 76 bar two bikes that cost over ten times what mine did.
Not a " time of the month" just that your making incorrect assumptions that are wrong & im correcting them.
You need to be very smooth & on the gas & back brake together before the apex & they stand up tall just nice.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I beat bonnevilles, guzzi's manx's tridents, in fact the entire pre 76 bar two bikes that cost over ten times what mine did.

Well done. And without touching down the rocker box covers on a Boxer.

[Voltaire]

Early ISDT privateer beemers if anything have more resemblance to an R80ST if anything and they were used as the basis of the original R80GS

The R80ST was a response to the market wanting a road going version of the GS. The ST came out in 1982 and stopped in 1984.

The ST uses R65 forks and instruments along with a 19" front wheel,sidecovers are different, rear shock is slightly shorter.

Three bolt rear wheel/FD is unique to the GS/ST series and limits gearing options and expensive to replace.

Now where did I leave my anorak and notebook....