Optimistic sellers

[HenryDorsetCase]

I always educated my apprentices that while you are employed to fix cars, other people are employed to sell parts or tools, regardless of wether said parts or tools work or not.

VFR400's are very susceptible to shit running with alterations to the airbox. Unless you are going full HRC its better to leave them as stock as poss.

[pritch]

of course no ones ever fitted an aftermarket pipe for the sound and it's cheaper than oem to replace....

We all have different budgets and priorities but anyone paying three grand simply to change the exhaust note definitely has different priorities to me. Having said that my last bike had cans and the current bike has a full system, neither at my expense though.

Your point about the cost of OEM is valid.

[F5 Dave]

Re the H2; It's come up at least a 1/2 dozen times on this thread. I can't remember TradeMe pre that listing. My pet theory is Sam Morgan accidentally hard coded it in as a test so it can't be removed.

[F5 Dave]

Ideally you would optimise fueling every change to find the true worth of modifications. A lot of stuff is sold no jetting changes required I suspect to remove impediments to purchase.

Airflow is a funny thing. Indeed I've sent people home with more power and a cone filter in their toolbox on several occasions.
Years back I fitted a k&n airbox filter to my YZF750SP before and after dyno runs.
112hp std filter
95hp k&n std jets
112hp k&n think we got to 3 sizes bigger before gains stopped.

So clearly the k&n was flowing better requiring richer jetting.
But, many buyers wouldn't have realised that.
Also the restriction to producing still more power was further upstream. Likely in the 5v heads, but that's another story.

[jasonu]

Malcolm was telling me that back to back dyno runs showed a drop in power when fitting those terrible conical mesh style filters.

They look the business though, so I guess that makes up for it.

You have to do a bit of tuning as well. No such thing as a free lunch.

[jasonu]

Yes that's the weirdest listing, literally getting more expensive the longer it takes to sell. It has been listed for AT LEAST the last 3 years, possibly much longer.

As an H2 it definitely has some value....but no not $20k in that state.

Re the H2; It's come up at least a 1/2 dozen times on this thread. I can't remember TradeMe pre that listing. My pet theory is Sam Morgan accidentally hard coded it in as a test so it can't be removed.

Nice original ones are getting $12 to $15k over here.
That heap of shit looks like $8k at best to me.

[jellywrestler]

We all have different budgets and priorities but anyone paying three grand simply to change the exhaust note definitely has different priorities to me. Having said that my last bike had cans and the current bike has a full system, neither at my expense though.

Your point about the cost of OEM is valid.

god gave me five senses, hearing is one of the few that is activated on a bike, how many road whales (harleys) do you hear with stock pipes?

[russd7]

I'll admit that I don't know a lot about old Kwakkas but even though it's an H2A and they're quite desirable, I struggle to see $20k in this condition..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...4ea54f94149907

yeah but its got a make-up mirror, that's gotta be worth somit

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...f97801a28b5794

Yeah but it has really expensive headlights, so I suppose it's not optimistic after all..........

[tigertim20]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...f97801a28b5794

Yeah but it has really expensive headlights, so I suppose it's not optimistic after all..........

If the KMs were a bit lower, that would be a quite reasonable price.
R6 from '07 and later are fairly desirable to a lot of people and seem to hold value really well - so he'll still probably get $7k or more for it.

And you could buy an '04 GSXR 1k for $5k.
People want what they want I guess

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...f97801a28b5794

Yeah but it has really expensive headlights, so I suppose it's not optimistic after all..........

looking at his tyres he has been riding it like a "cruyser" already.

[AllanB]

We all have different budgets and priorities but anyone paying three grand simply to change the exhaust note definitely has different priorities to me. Having said that my last bike had cans and the current bike has a full system, neither at my expense though.

Your point about the cost of OEM is valid.

Weight savings can be significant. Looks to thinking of some of the weird Kawasaki origami mufflers of recent years.

On the weight savings also consider cutting back on a few beers every week - less rider weight and more money!

[pritch]

On the weight savings also consider cutting back on a few beers every week - less rider weight and more money!

Good one. The exhaust system is lighter than standard, a single carbon fibre can, no cat, etc...
Really though I wouldn't look out of place on a FatBob, and as much as it might bother me when trying on kit in the shop, I didn't retire so I could go on another bloody diet.

Cheers

[F5 Dave]

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On the weight savings also consider cutting back on a few beers every week - less rider weight and more money!

Who are you? Jesus? Preachy preachy.
Next you'll be saying we shouldn't covet our neighbour's arse.

Ohh, ohh, I have another one. Thou shall not kill. Unless it's someone from another religion. Or a witch. Or Gay. Or, the same religion but with a slightly different interpretation.

Ok I'm done.

[Pound]

If the KMs were a bit lower, that would be a quite reasonable price.
R6 from '07 and later are fairly desirable to a lot of people and seem to hold value really well - so he'll still probably get $7k or more for it.

And you could buy an '04 GSXR 1k for $5k.
People want what they want I guess

Better yet, buy this for 12K -13K

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/mot...c9ace2f4d39542