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  1. #12466
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    Quote Originally Posted by OddDuck View Post
    It's very cute but... why?

    https://trademe.nz/motors/motorbikes...ing/2263660853

    I don't think there's anything wrong with the bike itself. It's just - where does it fit in these days? Reserve already lowered by $500 from a first go at $3450.
    Because hell yeah thats why..........
    Kenny Robberts an't dead.
    They did back years ago qualify for half rego costs for 50's not sure if you still can.



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    Quote Originally Posted by layton View Post
    Wasn't 04 the year they got the new shape? I'm thinking this is an 02 or 03 first registered in 04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Wasn't 04 the year they got the new shape? I'm thinking this is an 02 or 03 first registered in 04.
    Correct. I had the new shape, and it had a build date of 03. The date is on headstock, and motor, and swingarm

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    Quote Originally Posted by OddDuck View Post
    The stainless bolts used might be a worry, too.
    How come? are they less stronger-er than normal bolts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    How come? are they less stronger-er than normal bolts?
    don't have the shear strength

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    And again. . .std commands the money. Do a special for you but don't expect to get your money back
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    And again. . .std commands the money. Do a special for you but don't expect to get your money back
    Found that out when I rebuilt my 85 slabbie. It was absolutely mint, couldn't even bring myself to ride it, but I painted it solid red. The paint was perfect but for the same or similar money I could have done it back to original with decals and it would have been worth another $2k at least more than I sold it for. Cum dunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Because hell yeah thats why..........
    Kenny Robberts an't dead.
    They did back years ago qualify for half rego costs for 50's not sure if you still can.
    Heck yes, that bike has a lot of appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    How come? are they less stronger-er than normal bolts?
    Two reasons: strength (as already posted)

    Stainless steel fasteners have about 1/3rd the strength of high tensile steel (grade 12.9 is the good stuff)

    Second reason is galvanic corrosion. Stainless in direct contact with aluminium will slowly but surely cause the ally to get attacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Found that out when I rebuilt my 85 slabbie. It was absolutely mint, couldn't even bring myself to ride it, but I painted it solid red. The paint was perfect but for the same or similar money I could have done it back to original with decals and it would have been worth another $2k at least more than I sold it for. Cum dunt.
    A repaint to standard colors is not worth as much as mint ORIGINAL paint.
    ..................

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    Yep but that was hardly my point. I was doing a full rebuild on a bike that was not mint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OddDuck View Post
    Two reasons: strength (as already posted)

    Stainless steel fasteners have about 1/3rd the strength of high tensile steel (grade 12.9 is the good stuff)

    Second reason is galvanic corrosion. Stainless in direct contact with aluminium will slowly but surely cause the ally to get attacked.
    Ho ho. Thanks for that.

    Presumably its why copper anti seize is a thing. Similar with Titanium into aluminium or steel I understand but correct me if I am wrong.

    Also: I love the fact that Mitre 10 has bolts including high tensile (8.8 I think) but holy crap, do they charge for them or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    Ho ho. Thanks for that.

    Presumably its why copper anti seize is a thing. Similar with Titanium into aluminium or steel I understand but correct me if I am wrong.

    Also: I love the fact that Mitre 10 has bolts including high tensile (8.8 I think) but holy crap, do they charge for them or what?
    EDL for all things 'fixing' related. Rod ends, bolts, cap screws, anything. They're the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post

    Also: I love the fact that Mitre 10 has bolts including high tensile (8.8 I think) but holy crap, do they charge for them or what?
    Blacks Fasteners are your friend, they will sell you 1 bolt
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    Quote Originally Posted by OddDuck View Post
    high tensile steel (grade 12.9 is the good stuff)
    AS I understand it, the higher the tensile strength, the more brittle/less malleable the fastener will be.

    I met a guy who'd been in the industry for years, many years ago when one of my bikes had a habit of breaking sprocket bolts. He cautioned against using 12.9's as they were more brittle.....and a good 8.8 in most situations is fine. He also cautioned against using zinc plated bolts as they can create a torqueing issue, as the zinc will add drag and while you may tighten to a measured x fl/lbs the clamping force created by the bolt will be less. He suggested non plated bolts, of 8.8 tensile and 243 Loctite to help lube and add a slight amount of shock absorbing capability or lightly oiled and a reasonable torque setting of c 20ft/lb on a M8 bolt

    Bolts were breaking or coming loose in one to two races, yet they were lock tabbed etc. The lack of clamping force was not matting the sprocket against the hub well, compounded by a 6mm alloy spacer behind the sprocket, which was causing tension to subside..... (Sprockets don't carry the force in shear!). Got the clamping aspect sorted and the problem went away....

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